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the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

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1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

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that a flying disc has been found and is

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now in the possession of the army

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game is Riggs change the game game

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changer I occasionally think how quickly

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hard difference is worldwide would

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vanish if we were facing an alien threat

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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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Network

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all right welcome Fade to Black

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Fade to Black I'm Jimmy church today is

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Wednesday February 22nd 2023 and tonight

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you've been waiting for this it's about

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to happen Our Guest is Chris Bledsoe and

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tonight we're going to be talking about

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UFO of God uh his new uh new release and

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best-selling book

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um it it just came out and everybody is

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uh commenting about how much they're

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enjoying the book and I've been watching

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different quotes and people's favorite

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things and everybody's talking about

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this right now and I couldn't wait uh to

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get Chris on the show I will say this

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before I bring Chris on

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and he's listening right now Chris and I

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talked uh probably six months ago

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and and uh about the book and and things

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and that uh we had to just push things

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out a little bit I I wanted Chris on the

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show two or three times over the last

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six months and we just had to uh put

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things off and put things off until the

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release of the book and uh tonight's the

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night I'm very excited about this as

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most of you know uh Chris and I have

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been friends for a very long time we've

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done lots of shows together and uh but

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tonight is going to be really really

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special also

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I just you know I thought I knew Chris

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pretty well

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um but uh right before the show tonight

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uh I found out something I never knew

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about this man and you're gonna see some

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of that uh when he comes on now uh let's

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just start with this I'm not going to do

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a long bio on Chris but we all remember

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uh the shows I did with Chris

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um about uh the river uh his uh

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employees uh of course uh Chris Jr and

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you know family members and stuff and

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what went down that night which which

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seemed to have a little bit of

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everything we had a craft land in the

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field Chris goes to One Direction

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towards that

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um Chris Jr and uh his contractors his

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employees down by the river they go

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somewhere other there's a there's a a

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close encounter with uh an alien entity

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and everything unfolded that night was

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an incredible Adventure we may touch

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upon on some of that tonight of course

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but now the book is out it is called UFO

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of God the links are below we have them

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over on our website and throughout

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social media and with that I would like

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to welcome back to fade to black the one

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and only Chris Bledsoe Chris my man how

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you doing I'm doing great Jimmy thank

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you for having me I'm glad to be back

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yeah you know okay can I start with this

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Chris a little bit you look like you're

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glad to be back I am I am and I feel

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better too from the last time we talked

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I was I was pretty sick yeah pretty sick

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either you're completely healthy or you

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were faking it back then it's one or the

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other but um but yeah uh you and I spent

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uh many many hours on the phone over the

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last couple of years uh just

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specifically talking about your health

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and what you were going through but you

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look really really great tonight man so

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how is your health are you back well

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um you know I have rheumatoid arthritis

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is a chronic illness it's autoimmune

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disease and

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uh I was on chemotherapy for the better

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part of six

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and a half years and

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2020 when covered came my doctor told me

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he said I'm afraid if you get covered

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you're going to be in bad trouble so

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let's pull you off all this stuff and

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they did and I went from a cane and if I

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went anywhere traveling I was in a

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wheelchair

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to where I've got my life back and my

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hobby with you and I like and love I'm

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I'm able to do that again and

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so yeah I'm I'm shouting for Joy right

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um you had said uh tonight we're going

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to talk about uh uh you and and the book

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and stuff but before we get around to

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that I I'm not a doctor I don't dispense

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of medical advice but uh when you were

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going through all of that

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um I remember you made a comment to me

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if you don't mind me saying you said

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Jimmy I don't know if it's the illness

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or the or the medication that is messing

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me up I don't know what to do

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um do you remember saying that to me

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yeah I absolutely do and and and today

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this day

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uh you know my friend Jim

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from the government Jim Sydney van

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everybody has heard of Jim I think

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he he he came to see me in 2016 and he

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convinced me to start praying for myself

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which I never would do I always thought

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that uh I wasn't worthy I didn't didn't

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just didn't feel right doing it and

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I waited forever until I got scared with

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this covered thing

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it really scared me bad when my doctor

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said you you're probably gonna die if

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you get covered so I went out and I

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started praying and

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uh I will say it was either that or

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getting off the medication because I

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went from barely able to get out of bed

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and walk to

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I can I can do things I like to do now

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much better

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when you make that decision what is is

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it a coin toss right you know yeah I

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mean how did how do you because that's a

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that's a really big decision how did you

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make it

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well I did it on faith I listened to

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what my friend told me and then I

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listened to the doctor when he said

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you'll be in trouble if you get covered

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and it was when it was really coming out

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the first round of it and everybody was

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incubated they call it

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um and my immune system was shot and

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because all the meds they put me on I

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was on like 17

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000 a month worth of shots and having to

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get myself in the stomach and all these

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pills and I would take it all on Sunday

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and buy uh Thursday I was finally able

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to pull myself out of bed and then it

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two days are good and then it was right

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back into it

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but all I know is

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um I'm back and I'm feeling a whole lot

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better you look great man you've done

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straight up straight up

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now uh let's let's talk about we're

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talking about you but

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um before we go uh knee deep into this

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uh and into the book I know that

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everybody is noticing that airplane that

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RC plane that's hanging over your

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shoulder

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um and that's that's not don't turn the

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camera around or anything just let

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everybody just imagine and I've seen it

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right okay in front of you

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is probably 20 or 30 more planes hanging

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and and that that's your world isn't it

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yeah that's my world

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um when I was eight years old

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my mother bought me a little Cox plane

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and Jimmy the same thing he had the same

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thing so if everybody's wondering we're

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both RC Fanatics we love it

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but I started flying when I was eight

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and it drove me into being a commercial

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pilot as well by the time I was married

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and uh but I've always done it and

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that's my love I love it I love using my

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hands I can I can lose hours in my

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little shop just piddling on this stuff

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and I I have I have more mini

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screwdriver sets that any single man

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should be allowed to have I I I think I

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think it's illegal that a lot of micro

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screwdrivers yeah absolutely I've got

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man I I have got a my Dremel kit is

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I actually have four dremel tools yeah

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yeah yeah yeah yeah man uh I've got

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wired I've got cordless yeah and uh and

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my guitars oh so check this out and then

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we're going to get into UFOs everybody

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so I found this really cool use for my

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dremels see all my guitars behind me

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yeah

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polishing the Frets with the Dremel

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buffing wheel right so you get the metal

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compound right right and you get that

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thing go and you get it into the metal

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compound I've got four different layer

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levels of compound but anyway you get

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that in and then right on the Frets why

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is that I used to do it by hand with

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steel wool right uh four uh steel wool

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listen to Chris and I talk about it

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nobody knows what four odd steel wool is

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but Chris and I do yeah so I do that by

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hand take me for it not the Dremel

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it was so fun I did I did like 20

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guitars in one weekend

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with a Dremel yeah yeah I love my Dremel

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um uh have you have you put a camera on

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one of those planes

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I have two planes I have built to do

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that with and before I did it

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um um I got a drone that I'm trying to

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learn first person view on okay I've

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already got a plane set up to do that

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but okay because my question is this is

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this is my tie-in this is dremels and RC

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planes into UFOs you're gonna like how I

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do this is have you thought about that

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right uh or you know overhead and firing

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up a plane and and taking it up there or

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or possibly a drone have you thought

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about doing this yeah I have uh the

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Drone I have was not it doesn't have

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return home at night and that kind of

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thing so the one I have wouldn't be

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feasible but if I had a Maverick

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um yep yeah Maverick or something of

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that sort or you can send it up and

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forget about it and it comes on when

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it's ready finds his way home that would

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be a pretty interesting thing to try I

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have uh I'm not going to name names

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Chris there's no reason to do that but

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you and I have a lot of mutual friends

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and uh that have been out to your

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property and have called me dude right

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you're not gonna believe and you got to

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see this video and these are people that

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I trust and that I know really well and

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that have been out there that have been

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stopped in their tracks that not only we

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all agree that the phenomenon

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but to have your situation

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um uh that has gone public and then to

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have people out on your property that I

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know that have gone through these

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experiences uh They Come Away uh pretty

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shaken right and and how do you feel

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about that having people come out it's

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one thing with you and your family but

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uh to bring people out to the property

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uh how do you feel about that

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well I think it's what I'm supposed to

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do and um for the last time phenomenon

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wouldn't

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interact outside of my family it was

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very sharp but uh along about 2019 that

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all changed

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um I remember I told you this before

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something hovered over my pond for 30

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minutes and I filmed it for almost 18.

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and uh that's when I decided to come

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forward and I went on your show talking

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about that I hadn't talked in years and

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it told me then we're going to allow you

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to film us

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with camera and witness that's what it

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said

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and sure enough since that time the the

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interaction has grown exponentially

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to where um you know tonight I walk

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going out to my shop

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um I had three fly right over my head

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but

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yeah it's pretty crazy we had 25 30

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people here not uh too long ago it was

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close to 20.

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it was 15 and the crew and others

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there's over 20 people here and we had a

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whole big show I mean in the trees over

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our heads and

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it's probably some of the same ones

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you're talking about yeah yeah and

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um the uh I'm gonna say this pretty

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directly

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um I haven't shared any of Chris's

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videos uh that he sent me he sent me

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those in confidence

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um but there was

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uh over a period of About a Week Chris

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was sending me uh some stuff and I was

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looking and

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um Chris I I see stuff all the time but

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the stuff that is happening at your

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place

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is different and it's different to me

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there's something else going on yeah do

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you feel I I okay I know that you write

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about this in the book I understand that

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um and we have talked about this before

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but science today

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physics today quantum physics

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theoretical physics is definitely

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talking about entanglement and something

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going on at the quantum level

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um when you have 20 or 30 people out at

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your house

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are you calling them in are they

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reaching out to you are they saying hey

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did you guys order pizza you want us to

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come by you know is it like that

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well it it

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let's just say it's always waiting it's

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always there I don't have to pre-plan

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um when I go outside I just like you

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would call uh if you had uh friends

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across the street you were to shout out

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to them and say hey

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you know we're here in the yard come

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well they they hear that and they come

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and or

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uh they're waiting on me when I walk out

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the doors it's an everyday thing

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um and it has really grown to that and

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very impressive and this quantum

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entanglement thing

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um that's what we assume that we're

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doing

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uh it is pretty much is up for people to

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debate about but I can tell you we've

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been filming

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um for whatever I started doing it in

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2017 2016.

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a friend in Texas would call me and

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things would appear and

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um now it's gotten to where

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um I have a friend heading over to

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Europe to a NATO base right now in in

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Italy and we're going to do an

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experiment this week there's a good

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chance it'll show up over that NATO base

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which it has over Washington DC many

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times and uh it shows up there when it

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shows up here

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at the same time just entangled right

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right and when when that happens

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is it described the same

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um not exactly okay let's say here's we

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had people question that oh it's got to

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be the same module well no it's 450

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miles apart you can't see it when it's

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down so I I I had my friend in

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Washington DC

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uh and he was he was had his camera

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focused on the sky we always pick a spot

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so he's looking North right

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up towards Cassiopeia and so I actually

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took my camera without telling him and I

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brought it down to the ground and I

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faced the woods my chicken coop

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and the minute he had one uh appear and

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Flash at him his Flash

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and he said hey I got a flash

389
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immediately timed to the millisecond the

390
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orb flashed on my chicken coop about 25

391
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yards away she's totally entangled so

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it's not the same it's just different

393
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Sometimes they come from different

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directions one might be coming from the

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south and one from the west but they'll

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flash at us and you know it's all pretty

397
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amazing stuff why don't we mess with

398
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Lockheed Skunk Works they're right down

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the street I could I could do it good

400
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yeah yeah I could stand up on my patio

401
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where I can see Lockheed right and and

402
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you know I I think we should mess around

403
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I think we should do the mess around I

404
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would love that oh we can try it my my

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friends in in

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um my friends may say otherwise but we

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should give it a try we should give it a

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try

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you know your phone's gonna ring mine's

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gonna ring they're gonna be at my front

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door okay you and Bledsoe need to we're

412
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trying to work out here yeah

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um the book is called uh UFO of God and

414
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it's uh it's a it's a great title

415
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um I think that when most people see it

416
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uh it's a strong title right it's a very

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suggestive title

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why'd you call it that

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[Music]

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um because

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um

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I actually believe everything is from

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God you know if it's extraterrestrial or

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if it's Angelic uh

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somebody created it all and it's not by

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chance right so we got to give that and

427
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but if you look at this this cover of

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this book it is it's a lost Leonardo

429
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and it's something special about that

430
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cover

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uh he's holding the orbit and saying and

432
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we filmed these orbs even recently with

433
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a thermal camera

434
00:20:02,930 --> 00:20:00,120
and it was filmed which everybody might

435
00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:02,940
get to see that later this summer but it

436
00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,299
it looks exactly like the ball the

437
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little crystal ball he's holding in his

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hand and I see him all the time and

439
00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:12,780
they'll look like that translucent

440
00:20:17,870 --> 00:20:15,600
little balls of and they get bigger and

441
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smaller but they're usually about the

442
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size of a bowling ball to a beach ball

443
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but

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uh if you look at that ball anybody that

445
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knows this and Leonardo with an

446
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absolutely known it

447
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when you look to a crystal ball

448
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everything in the background will be

449
00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:37,020
reversed but not on that painting

450
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so there's something he's trying to tell

451
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us there and

452
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um

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I think that if you read the book you'll

454
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understand more why I named it that can

455
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I um oh well we'll discuss that a little

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bit tonight

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um the painting is called Salvador Mundy

458
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right

459
00:21:04,490 --> 00:21:01,620
and uh one of the great I mean the ball

460
00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:04,500
has always been a mystery uh to all of

461
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us and and of course the you you know in

462
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the hand

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um but it's also the face is such a big

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deal about this painting but you've got

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the eyes covered right what's going on

466
00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:21,059
man

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um

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that is everything about that cover was

469
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designed to get everybody's attention

470
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well it got mine yeah

471
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there were experts that helped me design

472
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it

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um and

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I mean real experts that that know how

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to to get attention

476
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and it all says something it says UFO

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UFO and God in the same

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I think it's time Jimmy for the people

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of religious Faith to talk about this

480
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subject you got to this time it's time

481
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for everybody to talk about it you

482
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um in in the past uh something that

483
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we've talked about a lot and I never

484
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pushed the issue and one of the which is

485
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the religious side of this right

486
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um on my show I try to leave two things

487
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alone politics and religion right you

488
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know let's let's divide the audience

489
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right let's just get everybody fighting

490
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um but uh we've talked a lot about the

491
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Easter visits

492
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um uh that was that for you

493
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was that the lean towards the religious

494
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component with your experiences

495
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that has something to do with it

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um you know I was born and raised in in

497
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the the Bible Belt

498
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um my family was Baptist still are and

499
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my wife I married a Pentecostal Holiness

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girl and they're a lot more strict

501
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and I was a deacon in the church and

502
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when I came home talking about this the

503
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whole world closed in on me the church

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all of them uh the community

505
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well it was a spiritual thing because I

506
00:23:20,930 --> 00:23:18,179
was crying out for help I was sick I had

507
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near death I've lost everything I had

508
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and was trying to figure out how to feed

509
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my children at 46 years old and they're

510
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all at home small my daughter was nine

511
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or ten years old

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and they all turned on me like I had the

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devil uh had paid me a visit and

514
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I knew better I knew it wasn't that way

515
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and I have

516
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um it never quit coming

517
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but I don't think they all know this

518
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:50,700
true story completely I I think there's

519
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a lot for us all to learn I I believe

520
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that um

521
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the same thing they were seeing back in

522
00:24:01,010 --> 00:23:58,520
the days

523
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,020
2000 years ago is the same thing we're

524
00:24:06,110 --> 00:24:03,840
seeing today what is it this we need to

525
00:24:09,409 --> 00:24:06,120
we need to study it we need to find out

526
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more I don't want to make claims and try

527
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to

528
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um influence anybody's thought you can

529
00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:15,240
believe whatever you want to believe

530
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:19,140
it's extraterrestrial and angelic I I

531
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just know it's spiritual it talks on a

532
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conscience level

533
00:24:28,610 --> 00:24:25,020
when

534
00:24:31,730 --> 00:24:28,620
this is John Alexander speaks about this

535
00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:31,740
and my manager David Broadwell

536
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he was here uh on October the 13th of

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last year

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and uh sitting in my living room at the

539
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front door with you know small little

540
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cabin we live in and his chair was at

541
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the front door and I'm facing him eight

542
00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:48,600
or ten feet away

543
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and Emily and her husband got up to go

544
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:54,720
get carryout for us and Yvonne was

545
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,240
cleaning dishes or something but anyhow

546
00:25:01,789 --> 00:24:59,760
it just became David now for a minute

547
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:01,799
well suddenly

548
00:25:07,130 --> 00:25:04,380
I'm not looking at David anymore I'm I

549
00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:07,140
have a vision of this

550
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:08,700
uh

551
00:25:13,690 --> 00:25:11,700
this presence over top of the house same

552
00:25:17,149 --> 00:25:13,700
thing I always get I get this Vision

553
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:17,159
it's like put in my head did not feel

554
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,679
this energy well up through me and I

555
00:25:24,409 --> 00:25:22,320
looked at David I said it's here now

556
00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:24,419
and he stood right up and opened the

557
00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:25,980
front door and it was hovering over top

558
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,740
of the house and as soon as I got up to

559
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:30,480
come out behind him here comes the

560
00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,580
second one and the third one and it was

561
00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:34,080
so close he filmed it with his cell

562
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:37,020
phone he looked at me and he said my God

563
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:38,640
he said

564
00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:41,700
John Alexander was correct you do know

565
00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:45,059
ahead of time I said well yeah I do a

566
00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:48,059
hero I hear him in visions and I feel

567
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:49,820
them and

568
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,000
so that alone is is it telepathic what

569
00:26:00,409 --> 00:25:55,919
is it I'm not sure

570
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:00,419
but it is is conscious based is it's a

571
00:26:05,810 --> 00:26:03,840
spiritual connection to me and uh but

572
00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:05,820
I'm not going to tell you it's Jesus

573
00:26:10,430 --> 00:26:07,740
Christ by no means you know what I'm

574
00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:10,440
saying because I don't know

575
00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:13,220
but I do know is is

576
00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:17,100
benevolent and it's uh for me it is

577
00:26:23,330 --> 00:26:20,520
and it's spiritual is uh is David going

578
00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:23,340
to church now yeah yeah he was there

579
00:26:26,169 --> 00:26:25,320
tonight believe it or not he said the

580
00:26:30,289 --> 00:26:26,179
pictures

581
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,299
oh man yeah he's laughing right now I

582
00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:31,919
know he's listening

583
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:35,460
um but yeah so it can be a change uh to

584
00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:37,500
everybody I like I like the way that you

585
00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:40,500
want to Define spiritual

586
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:43,980
um as opposed to religious because

587
00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:46,400
um let's face the facts here

588
00:26:50,750 --> 00:26:49,020
everybody's got a religion right they're

589
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:50,760
all over the place man they're invented

590
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:54,600
every single day we gotta do and

591
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:58,080
um so that's that that's not what we are

592
00:27:05,330 --> 00:27:01,440
referring to here but what do we do

593
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:05,340
for those that want to make this a

594
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:07,380
Catholic thing make this a Virgin Mary

595
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:11,220
thing a virgin mother thing a Fatima

596
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,400
thing there are similarities uh with

597
00:27:19,970 --> 00:27:16,640
Fatima and in your situation for sure

598
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:19,980
and I think that those three kids uh

599
00:27:26,810 --> 00:27:22,320
knew in advance that something was going

600
00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:26,820
down to as well and just like yourself

601
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:28,679
um so those comparisons are there but

602
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,539
you don't want to make that comparison

603
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:33,120
do you no no not at all

604
00:27:40,669 --> 00:27:36,960
um remember I was born Baptist and

605
00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:40,679
um in that religion uh they never talk

606
00:27:45,649 --> 00:27:43,380
about the mother of Jesus only talk

607
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:45,659
about Jesus you never hear about her at

608
00:27:51,230 --> 00:27:47,940
all very little

609
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:51,240
um so I don't know her and my experience

610
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:54,720
with this this this this this this woman

611
00:28:01,130 --> 00:27:56,400
this lady

612
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:01,140
was uh not to me uh the Virgin Mary at

613
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:02,940
all in fact

614
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:03,960
um

615
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,220
uh it I think she's always been here and

616
00:28:14,930 --> 00:28:11,520
I think that the Catholics uh are

617
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:14,940
beautiful people and but it's just like

618
00:28:19,549 --> 00:28:17,580
the Baptists and the and the rest they

619
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:19,559
all it's a man-made thing they have

620
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,960
rules I don't like rules I don't like

621
00:28:28,430 --> 00:28:24,799
nobody telling me I gotta pay for

622
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:28,440
Faith I get it freely I can walk out and

623
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,020
say you know I'm here and the sky comes

624
00:28:36,169 --> 00:28:34,320
alive and we can all do that we can all

625
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,179
do it

626
00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,640
um no offense to the church but you know

627
00:28:43,730 --> 00:28:41,159
it's it's real for us all it's not for

628
00:28:45,769 --> 00:28:43,740
one and it's not for one to charge for

629
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,779
it or give you a feed you a little bit

630
00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:47,520
we can all have

631
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:50,820
that connection yeah what do they say uh

632
00:28:59,870 --> 00:28:55,520
don't send change the baby Jesus

633
00:29:01,730 --> 00:28:59,880
we like the kind that folds yeah I I

634
00:29:06,409 --> 00:29:01,740
I've always had issues with that I think

635
00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:06,419
we we most do that don't understand

636
00:29:12,409 --> 00:29:09,779
um okay but and I hear you know here's

637
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,419
the caveat right here's the butt

638
00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:13,440
um

639
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:15,539
you

640
00:29:24,169 --> 00:29:21,200
lady

641
00:29:26,570 --> 00:29:24,179
and the comparisons to Fatima and other

642
00:29:28,909 --> 00:29:26,580
this is not your you know this is not a

643
00:29:32,029 --> 00:29:28,919
unique situation right

644
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:32,039
um did you ever stop and and wonder

645
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:34,260
because I want to get to the spiritual

646
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:37,620
side of what a UFO may be in in just a

647
00:29:43,090 --> 00:29:40,140
second and and the creation of the

648
00:29:46,909 --> 00:29:43,100
universe but

649
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:46,919
could it I mean could it be where you

650
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:48,840
might have to step back and go wow I

651
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:51,840
guess uh I guess she was the Virgin Mary

652
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:55,200
have you have you had that question uh

653
00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:00,000
in your mind not at all ever ever and

654
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:03,779
why is that because I wasn't raised to

655
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:07,200
believe that so when she came

656
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:08,640
um

657
00:30:14,450 --> 00:30:11,760
I I didn't see it in that light I saw

658
00:30:19,130 --> 00:30:14,460
something that was totally

659
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:19,140
uh beyond our imagination

660
00:30:24,169 --> 00:30:20,840
um beautiful

661
00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:24,179
caring and she didn't say I'm a Catholic

662
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:27,659
or I'm a Baptist or I'm this she just

663
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,360
said you have a burden

664
00:30:36,529 --> 00:30:32,640
you must bear you're not going to back

665
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:36,539
out on us and that's supercharged me to

666
00:30:41,389 --> 00:30:38,760
do what I'm doing today I would have

667
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,399
quit if she hadn't come but there was

668
00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:42,960
never any

669
00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:44,279
any

670
00:30:48,649 --> 00:30:45,539
um

671
00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:48,659
sign or anything for me to believe it

672
00:30:56,330 --> 00:30:52,200
was of any religion other than it was

673
00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:56,340
from it was from Heaven this lady was a

674
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,659
heavenly

675
00:31:03,549 --> 00:30:59,840
a spirit

676
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:03,559
she came out of nowhere appeared like

677
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:05,399
supernaturally you know it's what

678
00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:07,380
Angelic beings according to the Bible

679
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:10,380
are spirits ministering Spirits is what

680
00:31:14,210 --> 00:31:11,700
it says so

681
00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:14,220
they're Supernatural

682
00:31:20,090 --> 00:31:17,340
Okay so

683
00:31:22,909 --> 00:31:20,100
we're talking about at the same time

684
00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:22,919
we're talking about if like the the

685
00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:25,260
river incident right that that's a craft

686
00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:26,940
that came down and landed in the field

687
00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:29,880
right you've got Chris and your

688
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,340
co-workers your contractors you've got a

689
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:34,320
you know a dude that comes out of the

690
00:31:42,350 --> 00:31:39,360
bushes right red eyes right I mean now

691
00:31:46,269 --> 00:31:42,360
um is that spiritual

692
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,279
is that god-like or is that ET

693
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:47,840
and

694
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,000
obviously you feel that the the lady is

695
00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:54,240
connected to a craft that has landed uh

696
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,440
near your house and uh your son has made

697
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:00,720
he's made a close encounter of the Third

698
00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:04,799
Kind right right well let me say this

699
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:05,700
um

700
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:08,640
you know I struggled for many years with

701
00:32:15,649 --> 00:32:12,240
all this until I learned that uh the

702
00:32:18,110 --> 00:32:15,659
technology is the problem everybody has

703
00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:18,120
I discussed this with NASA Tim Taylor

704
00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:21,539
many times you know Tim is the

705
00:32:27,049 --> 00:32:23,940
technology that blows everybody's mind

706
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:27,059
well if you start looking at the newest

707
00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:28,140
science

708
00:32:34,970 --> 00:32:32,279
a molecular biology if you look at the

709
00:32:38,810 --> 00:32:34,980
molecular level you can go on television

710
00:32:39,789 --> 00:32:38,820
now and and Google on YouTube

711
00:32:44,210 --> 00:32:39,799
um

712
00:32:47,149 --> 00:32:44,220
electron microscope or microscopy they

713
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:47,159
call it of um

714
00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:50,880
of the molecular machines

715
00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:55,799
your body is full of like 10 trillion

716
00:33:01,549 --> 00:32:58,860
sales and in these cells are tiny

717
00:33:03,889 --> 00:33:01,559
machines they look like a dump truck or

718
00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:03,899
like something pulling along something

719
00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:06,120
and they fall in line is

720
00:33:12,049 --> 00:33:08,340
is too complex

721
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:12,059
for it not to be made by some mind you

722
00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:14,700
know somebody encoded this somebody

723
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:17,700
wrote the program we're in a simulation

724
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:19,919
we have to be

725
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:20,580
um

726
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:23,880
and and so if the body's made full of

727
00:33:28,669 --> 00:33:26,399
machines whoever made it undoubtedly has

728
00:33:32,509 --> 00:33:28,679
machines as well right

729
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:32,519
so I I don't know I'm in this and

730
00:33:39,529 --> 00:33:35,940
and awe and wonder every day just like

731
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,539
everybody else yeah I thought about that

732
00:33:45,409 --> 00:33:41,580
so much in that

733
00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:45,419
you and I are made of the exact same

734
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:49,140
stuff it's called atoms right the exact

735
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:52,320
same stuff that start off the same atoms

736
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:55,140
make this coffee cup right it's the same

737
00:33:59,210 --> 00:33:57,120
man it's not there's not there's not

738
00:34:03,289 --> 00:33:59,220
anything special going on here that

739
00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:03,299
makes it different but something is

740
00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:06,779
telling everything in our body

741
00:34:15,010 --> 00:34:11,220
what to do yeah you know hair blood

742
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:15,020
right toenails whatever it is skin cells

743
00:34:22,849 --> 00:34:20,399
that beard right right how how does this

744
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,859
happen unless

745
00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:24,960
there's something Divine and spiritual

746
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:28,740
about it uh DNA I don't think was an

747
00:34:34,609 --> 00:34:31,679
accident Chris do you no it absolutely

748
00:34:36,970 --> 00:34:34,619
wasn't in fact that's where you can

749
00:34:39,710 --> 00:34:36,980
really find these uh detailed

750
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:39,720
simulations of these Micro Machines

751
00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:43,139
within your DNA replicating cells and

752
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,500
replicating DNA to the exact code and it

753
00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:49,440
it does it and they line up all these

754
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:53,639
but something I've learned uh studying

755
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,879
some stuff from NASA being involved with

756
00:35:03,890 --> 00:34:59,760
uh certain people from there

757
00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:03,900
I learned about metamaterial 15 14 years

758
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:06,900
ago I learned about the same stuff Gary

759
00:35:12,609 --> 00:35:09,599
Nolan's doing now I knew about it a long

760
00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:12,619
time before he ever come on the scene

761
00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:16,980
or a good while and um

762
00:35:23,770 --> 00:35:22,140
but it's incredible to to see

763
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:23,780
um

764
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:28,020
it's just it's mind-boggling the whole

765
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:30,839
thing of how it all fits together the

766
00:35:41,569 --> 00:35:31,940
the

767
00:35:42,650 --> 00:35:41,579
you know I can say this to study from

768
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:42,660
NASA

769
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:46,980
that I'm referring to was green light

770
00:35:52,750 --> 00:35:50,000
uh some there believe they have found

771
00:35:56,810 --> 00:35:52,760
the program

772
00:35:59,690 --> 00:35:56,820
that the green light when it shines on

773
00:36:02,870 --> 00:35:59,700
when the Sun Shines on the earth it hits

774
00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:02,880
it at an angle which causes a green

775
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:04,859
light spectrum which is the center of

776
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,900
the color spectrum right

777
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:08,640
trees are green grass is green

778
00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:09,900
everything's green

779
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,320
well there's a chemical called I think

780
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:15,119
it's ADT

781
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:17,520
which is basically hemoglobin in the

782
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:19,680
blood and um

783
00:36:26,690 --> 00:36:23,160
the the the chlorophyll in a plant or in

784
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:26,700
a you know in Plants it's the same same

785
00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:29,520
principle when this green light hits

786
00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:32,579
that it starts the life process so that

787
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:35,940
light and is encoding wirelessly

788
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:39,480
the instructions for life for everything

789
00:36:45,310 --> 00:36:42,300
so they believe that that's God talking

790
00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:45,320
or the program or whatever it is

791
00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:47,700
encoding every living thing is coming

792
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:49,980
through green light and it's funny in

793
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:52,500
the Bible there's passages that says and

794
00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:54,420
he maketh need to lie down in Green

795
00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:56,579
Pastures what is that about

796
00:37:02,810 --> 00:36:58,980
you know and even NASA recognizes this

797
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:02,820
the same scriptures so okay so now let's

798
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:04,920
go out a little bit

799
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:08,160
the book is called UFO of God right

800
00:37:13,849 --> 00:37:12,420
uh we have what that implies but if we

801
00:37:17,810 --> 00:37:13,859
go further out and further out and

802
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:17,820
further out uh to the beginning of

803
00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:22,910
um before the Big Bang you know we can

804
00:37:25,490 --> 00:37:24,839
start there

805
00:37:28,670 --> 00:37:25,500
um

806
00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:28,680
is that

807
00:37:36,230 --> 00:37:33,060
that thinking mechanism whatever

808
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,240
started this creation of everything

809
00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:39,119
is that the god that is on the cover of

810
00:37:43,609 --> 00:37:41,460
this book

811
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:43,619
um well I don't have no way of knowing

812
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:44,640
that

813
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:48,000
um at all the um what drew me to this

814
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:51,060
cover was my spiritual connection and

815
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:53,880
the orb that Leonardo painted on there

816
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:58,800
that clear orb is so unreal because it

817
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:00,480
has if you look at a real high

818
00:38:07,609 --> 00:38:03,839
definition copy of it you'll see little

819
00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:07,619
bubbles inside water bubbles well Lori

820
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:10,500
Wagner you know her we were nowhere well

821
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:12,660
yeah Lori and I and her daughter and

822
00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:15,839
some other folks were in Encinitas

823
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:18,180
standing on the bank looking on the

824
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,859
Pacific Coast Highway looking out over

825
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,359
the ocean they wanted to see something

826
00:38:25,609 --> 00:38:24,000
they flew me out there so we're standing

827
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,619
there in these orange orgs are peering

828
00:38:29,630 --> 00:38:27,599
out over the ocean and they'd go off and

829
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,640
appear in different places real low

830
00:38:33,890 --> 00:38:31,200
right on the water

831
00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:33,900
so we stayed there about an hour and we

832
00:38:38,690 --> 00:38:35,640
turned I was going to go back to the

833
00:38:39,890 --> 00:38:38,700
hotel which was we were parked at my

834
00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:39,900
hotel there

835
00:38:43,609 --> 00:38:41,579
and um

836
00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:43,619
as soon as we turned our backs to the

837
00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:45,900
ocean they came from behind us came

838
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:48,900
right overhead about 200 feet up two

839
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,320
orbs we all looked up and fat Lori's

840
00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:54,720
daughter said oh my God what is that and

841
00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:57,000
well they right over top and they look

842
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:00,540
like water drops just like the orb he's

843
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:03,180
holding in his hand and they joined

844
00:39:07,849 --> 00:39:05,280
together like water would do it like

845
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:07,859
bloop it just kind of they sucked in on

846
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:09,839
one another and it jiggled a bit and

847
00:39:14,270 --> 00:39:11,760
then it shut off the Mexico

848
00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:14,280
out like out of a cannon but they look

849
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:16,140
like raindrops they look just like that

850
00:39:25,130 --> 00:39:20,640
oil I remember uh Lori telling me about

851
00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:25,140
that yeah and uh her description of it

852
00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:27,480
first off

853
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:29,420
um she's a very very very very very

854
00:39:37,069 --> 00:39:32,880
smart person right I mean it's super

855
00:39:38,329 --> 00:39:37,079
smart but also very very very cool all

856
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:38,339
right okay

857
00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:42,000
but when Lori says something to me like

858
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,500
that I'm gonna listen I'm going to

859
00:39:47,390 --> 00:39:45,599
listen really closely and her attention

860
00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:47,400
to details what she does by the way

861
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:49,980
she's she's a producer she's really good

862
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:51,540
at what she does

863
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:53,760
um and she described it just like you uh

864
00:39:58,730 --> 00:39:56,220
are describing it now

865
00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:58,740
um and and she was completely completely

866
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:02,040
blown away by it she said they came down

867
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:05,339
it came down man I said what they joined

868
00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:07,320
up what

869
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:10,500
um yeah now is is that

870
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:14,700
uh is that you in other words

871
00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:17,520
is that you causing something like that

872
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:20,280
to happen at the beach in Encinitas or

873
00:40:26,089 --> 00:40:23,040
could Lori have done that on her own

874
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:26,099
uh well uh you know everybody knows

875
00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:28,560
pretty much it's me I I don't like to

876
00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:31,020
Pat me on the back but yeah

877
00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:33,540
um I have a friend that is a professor

878
00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:35,640
from Charlotte

879
00:40:42,349 --> 00:40:36,260
um

880
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:42,359
uh and I'm allowed to say history

881
00:40:47,810 --> 00:40:45,119
channel is producing a new series coming

882
00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:47,820
out this summer and I'll be featured in

883
00:40:52,310 --> 00:40:51,060
that well he was in that too and that he

884
00:40:55,370 --> 00:40:52,320
describes

885
00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:55,380
um many times of

886
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,420
being at his house he doesn't see

887
00:41:02,810 --> 00:40:59,520
anything he picks up the phone and he

888
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:02,820
calls me and I say okay and as soon as

889
00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:04,740
we make connection boom it appears right

890
00:41:08,510 --> 00:41:06,300
over top of it

891
00:41:10,730 --> 00:41:08,520
and does with my friend David now

892
00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:10,740
they've gotten to where they can see it

893
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:13,320
if they go out and stay long enough

894
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:15,960
it kind of It kind of

895
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,200
um it John calls it The Hitchhiker Jim

896
00:41:24,829 --> 00:41:21,119
calls it a Contagion

897
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:24,839
but um it does kind of jump from me to

898
00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:27,359
others at times but if they lose that

899
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:29,400
connection they call me and it comes

900
00:41:33,230 --> 00:41:30,780
right back

901
00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:33,240
so now

902
00:41:35,150 --> 00:41:33,960
um

903
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:35,160
Chris

904
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:38,220
if this is going on here

905
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:40,260
it's got to be throughout the Universe

906
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:44,720
yeah the Milky Way right yeah

907
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:49,020
and do you do you believe that the

908
00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:51,660
conscious connection would also be

909
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:54,119
Universal that it would be operating

910
00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:56,339
under those same principles on another

911
00:42:01,370 --> 00:41:59,160
planet in other words the with this

912
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:01,380
phenomenon whatever it is spiritual

913
00:42:06,770 --> 00:42:05,220
whatever that connection is is operating

914
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,780
the same way

915
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:09,359
I would say probably so of course we

916
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:11,400
speculating but yeah

917
00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:12,119
um

918
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:14,760
I think everybody has the ability to

919
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:16,320
connect to this

920
00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:19,260
uh if you figure out how and for one you

921
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:21,060
got to be introduced to it it doesn't

922
00:42:24,170 --> 00:42:23,460
want to go against our free will for

923
00:42:28,130 --> 00:42:24,180
sure

924
00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:28,140
I know this 100 but if you seek it

925
00:42:34,190 --> 00:42:31,079
and you're you're freely wanting to see

926
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:34,200
it and you're introduced to it you most

927
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,220
likely be able to see it again now

928
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:41,760
um uh I want to talk about the lady uh

929
00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:44,400
briefly one more time and then uh we're

930
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:46,020
going to move on

931
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:46,880
um

932
00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:50,760
uh we talked you we you have talked a

933
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:53,339
lot about these Easter uh messages and

934
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,140
these Easter things have those continued

935
00:43:01,730 --> 00:42:57,839
we're in 2023 you first told me about

936
00:43:04,609 --> 00:43:01,740
that in 2017 so that's uh you know wait

937
00:43:07,809 --> 00:43:04,619
a minute is Easter this weekend

938
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:07,819
no it's the 9th of April I think but

939
00:43:14,329 --> 00:43:11,599
okay it shows you how Catholic I am

940
00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:14,339
let me tell you about this past Easter

941
00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:16,380
Jimmy okay

942
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,060
um

943
00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:21,599
thank you this past April

944
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:25,859
I always know and prepare for Easter or

945
00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:28,859
something it always starts right now it

946
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:31,140
starts increasing and the activity gets

947
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,640
greater and greater right on up to

948
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:34,319
Easter so something

949
00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:38,880
beautiful happens well last year

950
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,660
my friend uh David which you've met

951
00:43:46,569 --> 00:43:45,119
David he's one of my best friends on the

952
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:46,579
planet and

953
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,040
he had his experience here with me and

954
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:52,560
it really got him and he'd had an

955
00:43:57,890 --> 00:43:55,380
experience before in Washington DC

956
00:43:59,809 --> 00:43:57,900
and called John Alexander and said John

957
00:44:01,069 --> 00:43:59,819
I just got to know what's happened to me

958
00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:01,079
and John said well you need to call

959
00:44:05,930 --> 00:44:02,520
Chris and

960
00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,940
and anyhow we turned into

961
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:07,920
um David said Chris you got to write a

962
00:44:13,550 --> 00:44:11,040
book you have got to tell your story and

963
00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:13,560
I wasn't really interested in it I mean

964
00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:15,780
I've got a grandchild I'm in love with

965
00:44:20,329 --> 00:44:18,540
and and but David convinced me you're

966
00:44:23,329 --> 00:44:20,339
gonna have to write a book

967
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:23,339
so long about Easter

968
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:26,880
he had worked hard to to put together a

969
00:44:32,510 --> 00:44:30,480
plan to do it and put it all on paper

970
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,520
and um

971
00:44:38,690 --> 00:44:34,319
he he

972
00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:38,700
searched for a Ghostwriter and found a

973
00:44:43,069 --> 00:44:40,500
guy and he came to me and he's like

974
00:44:46,430 --> 00:44:43,079
Chris we got to get this going

975
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:46,440
and uh you have got to lead this for

976
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,560
your children to to to to to read about

977
00:44:53,329 --> 00:44:51,599
their grandpa don't you want to do that

978
00:44:57,230 --> 00:44:53,339
see it convinced me

979
00:45:01,069 --> 00:44:57,240
so I get this contract or this offer you

980
00:45:06,890 --> 00:45:03,650
to agree to do this book the week of

981
00:45:08,569 --> 00:45:06,900
April of Easter so I sat on it and I

982
00:45:12,170 --> 00:45:08,579
struggled with it and I thought about it

983
00:45:14,510 --> 00:45:12,180
Lord if I I have to hire a lawyer I

984
00:45:17,030 --> 00:45:14,520
don't want to do that so I had all these

985
00:45:20,210 --> 00:45:17,040
thoughts about not doing it

986
00:45:22,430 --> 00:45:20,220
so Friday night Easter Friday night

987
00:45:25,849 --> 00:45:22,440
which is a

988
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:28,190
something about Good Friday all the

989
00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:31,260
farmers know that you plant your crops

990
00:45:36,109 --> 00:45:33,960
on Thursday they won't do you plant them

991
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:36,119
on Friday they do beautiful plant them

992
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,579
on Monday they die usually

993
00:45:43,309 --> 00:45:40,800
okay seriously it's something special

994
00:45:45,290 --> 00:45:43,319
about that day Farmers Almanac tells you

995
00:45:49,010 --> 00:45:45,300
the same Good Friday

996
00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:49,020
so I go out on Good Friday

997
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,420
I walk out in my little shop here and

998
00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:53,280
I'll look up at the sky

999
00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:57,180
and I said did you send me this is this

1000
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,640
your will do you want me to write this

1001
00:46:04,370 --> 00:46:01,200
book

1002
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,380
and immediately Jimmy an orb appeared

1003
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:06,960
out over the pond so I take my little

1004
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,940
psionics it's not much bigger than this

1005
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,119
remote it's a little more round you know

1006
00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:13,200
four inches long

1007
00:46:19,450 --> 00:46:16,140
so I swing it around and I'm got it

1008
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:19,460
focused on this orb over my pond

1009
00:46:25,609 --> 00:46:22,260
and I just hung out the phone with David

1010
00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:25,619
and I look you know sometimes I'll point

1011
00:46:30,109 --> 00:46:27,480
it at it and I'll look around to see if

1012
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:30,119
others are coming so the minute I did

1013
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:33,060
that I look up and I said oh my God what

1014
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,079
is that

1015
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:36,960
you can hear me on the video say it

1016
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,380
well from way up high up way on past the

1017
00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:43,200
orb this over the pond well up I see

1018
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:45,240
something coming down and it's coming

1019
00:46:49,609 --> 00:46:48,480
towards me it's glowing orange bright

1020
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:49,619
orange

1021
00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:53,040
and as it gets closer I begin to see

1022
00:47:01,550 --> 00:46:58,020
these giant wings doing this flapping

1023
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:01,560
and it comes right over top of me and as

1024
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:04,020
it's coming over me it changes to white

1025
00:47:09,770 --> 00:47:07,920
blue and white and it's as big as a 737.

1026
00:47:12,349 --> 00:47:09,780
that's what it looked like

1027
00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:12,359
so it turns and heads South and it's

1028
00:47:17,150 --> 00:47:14,819
flapping these huge wings as it flies on

1029
00:47:20,450 --> 00:47:17,160
out of sight not filmed it with my

1030
00:47:22,670 --> 00:47:20,460
psionics but I've not shared it with

1031
00:47:23,930 --> 00:47:22,680
outside the family or a couple of

1032
00:47:25,550 --> 00:47:23,940
friends

1033
00:47:30,589 --> 00:47:25,560
incredible

1034
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:30,599
what was it no text me man that one I

1035
00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:33,119
want to see yeah and

1036
00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:34,859
um back some of your mutual friends saw

1037
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,780
it a couple weeks ago

1038
00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:39,119
and uh or three or four weeks ago when

1039
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:44,460
they were here and blew them away but so

1040
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:47,700
you signed the contract yeah I signed it

1041
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:50,520
gladly and here we are today with this

1042
00:47:55,490 --> 00:47:52,500
book that everybody's

1043
00:47:58,430 --> 00:47:55,500
uh making great remarks about I'm so

1044
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:58,440
thankful for all yeah everybody's really

1045
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,160
really happy about it and okay

1046
00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:06,410
let's talk about missing time for a

1047
00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:11,339
second okay when we that's a now I've

1048
00:48:16,609 --> 00:48:13,500
never experienced it not that I know of

1049
00:48:18,650 --> 00:48:16,619
could have or would I know right I don't

1050
00:48:19,849 --> 00:48:18,660
know you're right

1051
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:19,859
um

1052
00:48:26,750 --> 00:48:24,119
tell me about the first time I'm going

1053
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,760
to say time twice in a sentence tell me

1054
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:28,319
about the first time you realize that

1055
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:30,960
some missing time had happened and how

1056
00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:33,839
did you figure that out well the first

1057
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:37,619
time was on the River Event and um

1058
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:40,560
after it happened uh you know I lost

1059
00:48:45,530 --> 00:48:42,599
four hours of time and I came walking

1060
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:45,540
back to to where they were and they told

1061
00:48:49,550 --> 00:48:47,640
me you you were gone all night I'm like

1062
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:49,560
there's no way and I didn't believe them

1063
00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:51,960
I could not believe them and I try to

1064
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:53,460
think about it and I couldn't remember

1065
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,119
it my head would hurt so bad that it

1066
00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,520
would put me out I'd pass out asleep

1067
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:01,920
with people talking to me my wife was

1068
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:03,720
telling me if you pressure him much he's

1069
00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:06,790
going to fall out and I did

1070
00:49:08,270 --> 00:49:07,260
[Music]

1071
00:49:11,690 --> 00:49:08,280
um

1072
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:11,700
but it was not until

1073
00:49:18,530 --> 00:49:15,420
Chris Jr sat down with me six months

1074
00:49:21,650 --> 00:49:18,540
later really and we really started

1075
00:49:23,630 --> 00:49:21,660
talking and he made me realize because I

1076
00:49:26,930 --> 00:49:23,640
believe my son right

1077
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:26,940
don't you remember Dad it was dark it

1078
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:28,859
was Daylight when you left when you come

1079
00:49:32,690 --> 00:49:31,500
back we didn't get home to 10 30 11

1080
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:32,700
o'clock

1081
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:36,420
uh the ground was icy when we got home

1082
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,300
it was frost on the ground

1083
00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:42,000
um but it was all these details he kept

1084
00:49:46,250 --> 00:49:44,339
telling me that made me realize that

1085
00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:46,260
something actually happened I could not

1086
00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:50,220
believe it and then Dr Michael O'Connell

1087
00:49:56,270 --> 00:49:53,640
a Harvard trained hypnotherapist he

1088
00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:56,280
trained under John Matt uh the Discovery

1089
00:50:01,490 --> 00:49:58,440
Channel brought him

1090
00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:01,500
and he came before the show a couple of

1091
00:50:08,510 --> 00:50:04,920
weeks and he worked on me to get this

1092
00:50:10,970 --> 00:50:08,520
headache to leave and he did he was very

1093
00:50:12,349 --> 00:50:10,980
successful at it and then I began to

1094
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:12,359
think

1095
00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:15,000
so when he put me under regression he

1096
00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:16,380
said

1097
00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:18,660
you have had uh

1098
00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:23,220
you have had what we would call a

1099
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:26,220
a download that's what he called it of a

1100
00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:28,200
lot of information and if you remember

1101
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:31,140
it all at once it could cause you to to

1102
00:50:35,630 --> 00:50:33,060
go crazy it's just too much information

1103
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:35,640
your brain goes into safe mode it can't

1104
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:37,859
handle all it's a PR it's got this

1105
00:50:42,050 --> 00:50:40,200
protection device built in your brain he

1106
00:50:44,450 --> 00:50:42,060
was explaining it

1107
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,460
he said but I made it to where you'll

1108
00:50:49,490 --> 00:50:47,280
remember everything over time little by

1109
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:49,500
little not all at once

1110
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:53,940
and that was in that was in early 2008

1111
00:50:58,970 --> 00:50:57,119
nearly a year later that he did all that

1112
00:51:02,630 --> 00:50:58,980
and um

1113
00:51:04,910 --> 00:51:02,640
right away right away all these every

1114
00:51:07,010 --> 00:51:04,920
time I'd go to sleep I'd wake up I

1115
00:51:09,190 --> 00:51:07,020
wouldn't wake up I'd be screaming in the

1116
00:51:12,530 --> 00:51:09,200
middle of the night shouting crying

1117
00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:12,540
terrified my wife was filming me with

1118
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,420
her iPad uh the kids would come in and

1119
00:51:19,730 --> 00:51:17,280
see me asleep I'd wake them all up in

1120
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:19,740
the house I was still asleep

1121
00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:22,920
and it was scaring them but all these

1122
00:51:28,970 --> 00:51:26,940
These Dreams started coming and

1123
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:28,980
um some of them were bad dreams really

1124
00:51:37,370 --> 00:51:32,099
bad dreams scenes of the destruction of

1125
00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:37,380
the world and uh famine and all that and

1126
00:51:42,770 --> 00:51:40,260
I never I can't verify any of that's

1127
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,780
real I just know I had all this happen

1128
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,920
to me

1129
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:46,079
so I never talk about that I only talk

1130
00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:47,940
about what the lady shared with me

1131
00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:51,240
because some of that may be no telling

1132
00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:55,740
you know what I was remembering there in

1133
00:52:00,589 --> 00:51:58,500
these dreams but I do remember some of

1134
00:52:02,270 --> 00:52:00,599
it that was the first time that I

1135
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:02,280
consciously knew

1136
00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:04,920
that I had lost on and started

1137
00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:11,450
that I really did and accepted it that

1138
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:13,800
it happened do you think you've unpacked

1139
00:52:20,270 --> 00:52:17,520
everything by now uh good portion of it

1140
00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:20,280
right are you writing it down

1141
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:22,380
I have written some of it down I sure

1142
00:52:26,349 --> 00:52:23,880
have

1143
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,359
um how does how does that make you feel

1144
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,160
uh

1145
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:31,680
not not emotionally but some people

1146
00:52:37,069 --> 00:52:34,680
would say oh you know Chris thinks he's

1147
00:52:40,370 --> 00:52:37,079
a prophet right he thinks he's

1148
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:40,380
Nostradamus and and and suddenly you've

1149
00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:43,380
got that label uh can you you feel I'm

1150
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:45,180
sure you've heard it many times but how

1151
00:52:50,030 --> 00:52:47,040
does that make you feel well I don't

1152
00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:50,040
want to be known as that

1153
00:52:57,049 --> 00:52:53,700
um and I don't give out predictions uh

1154
00:52:58,910 --> 00:52:57,059
I I don't like doing that um you've

1155
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:58,920
always refused I've tried to get you to

1156
00:53:03,530 --> 00:53:01,559
do it by the way well it can be negative

1157
00:53:05,809 --> 00:53:03,540
and my whole life is about being

1158
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,819
positive I tell my children and

1159
00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:07,200
everybody I know

1160
00:53:12,589 --> 00:53:10,260
if the news bothers you turn it off

1161
00:53:14,569 --> 00:53:12,599
no need in getting up in the morning and

1162
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:14,579
seeing something that you have no

1163
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:17,160
control over that messes your whole day

1164
00:53:24,370 --> 00:53:20,480
up and then you affect others around you

1165
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,380
it just comes out of people so

1166
00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:27,359
I like to stay positive if I was

1167
00:53:32,089 --> 00:53:29,460
negative and I allowed it around me I

1168
00:53:33,410 --> 00:53:32,099
would never have these experiences they

1169
00:53:35,870 --> 00:53:33,420
would not come

1170
00:53:39,049 --> 00:53:35,880
because I've I've experienced that I've

1171
00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:39,059
come out in a bad mood or you know all

1172
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:41,400
down and out and negative and over

1173
00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:44,880
something and nothing but the minute I

1174
00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:46,380
change all that

1175
00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:50,940
they just start coming and and it's has

1176
00:53:55,490 --> 00:53:54,180
them has the missing time continued yes

1177
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:55,500
in fact

1178
00:53:59,450 --> 00:53:56,819
um

1179
00:54:01,730 --> 00:53:59,460
you know Chase clotsky right and her

1180
00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:01,740
husband Pete

1181
00:54:06,650 --> 00:54:03,780
um Chase called me and I wrote about

1182
00:54:11,150 --> 00:54:06,660
this in the book and we go on a

1183
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:11,160
we're going to a short and sweet

1184
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,119
it was a an event that happened in the

1185
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:17,760
hometown my mother was born in which was

1186
00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:21,480
about 12 13 miles from where I lived and

1187
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:22,980
she called me hey you ever heard of

1188
00:54:29,329 --> 00:54:25,920
Saint Paul's in North Carolina I said

1189
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:29,339
yes I have a fight before you tell me

1190
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:31,920
anything let me tell you something

1191
00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:34,260
I said this was Sunday night or Monday

1192
00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:35,880
night she called me I said Saturday

1193
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:38,280
night shows I was outside sitting on my

1194
00:54:44,809 --> 00:54:40,980
patio looking up at the sky and these

1195
00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:44,819
two big balls of orange orbs appeared

1196
00:54:48,530 --> 00:54:46,800
just turned on and came straight down

1197
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:48,540
and hovered over the trees in my

1198
00:54:52,130 --> 00:54:51,119
backyard both of them and they shot off

1199
00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:52,140
South

1200
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,260
straight towards Saint Paul's and she

1201
00:54:59,690 --> 00:54:57,359
said oh my God

1202
00:55:01,970 --> 00:54:59,700
um and she began to tell me about a

1203
00:55:04,010 --> 00:55:01,980
Ghost Hunter crew that

1204
00:55:10,490 --> 00:55:04,020
had

1205
00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:10,500
in that town so it turned in a week

1206
00:55:16,430 --> 00:55:13,559
later she and her husband come out and

1207
00:55:19,130 --> 00:55:16,440
I called a friend from NASA and he flew

1208
00:55:21,170 --> 00:55:19,140
out I picked him up just for the day we

1209
00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:21,180
all met walked the property but that

1210
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:23,339
night and this is in the book it's

1211
00:55:29,210 --> 00:55:25,619
really crazy because it blew Pete

1212
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,220
plotsky's mind bad you know he's a he's

1213
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:31,920
a naval sub Commander now he's a pretty

1214
00:55:37,490 --> 00:55:34,760
he's a pretty straight straight forward

1215
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:37,500
kind of you know intimidating you know

1216
00:55:42,349 --> 00:55:39,780
he's a he's a he's a captain of the Navy

1217
00:55:45,490 --> 00:55:42,359
yeah yeah he's a huge guy I mean like

1218
00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:45,500
Navy SEAL type he's a big dude

1219
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:47,700
compared to chase you know Chase is

1220
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:50,400
what's big as a beer can yeah you know

1221
00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:54,359
and and Pete Pete Pete's a big guy and I

1222
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:55,980
don't think you can shake Pete too

1223
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:58,680
easily so what happened so he got shaken

1224
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:00,839
that night because Pete carries a watch

1225
00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:05,040
a a compass on his wrist that he

1226
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:07,020
navigates under the ocean with you know

1227
00:56:11,569 --> 00:56:09,720
the guy's a navigator like no tomorrow

1228
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:11,579
you know you can go from here to Hawaii

1229
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:14,640
and never see the surface and that's

1230
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:17,880
something that said you know so we were

1231
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:21,480
walking in the forest that night and not

1232
00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:23,160
giving the story away

1233
00:56:29,630 --> 00:56:26,520
but uh there was a lot that happened a

1234
00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:29,640
lot but long story short

1235
00:56:36,349 --> 00:56:32,599
um we all walked there were eight of us

1236
00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:36,359
and Chase and I were in the rear Pete

1237
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:39,180
was leading the way and the group that

1238
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,880
had the encounter was between us we were

1239
00:56:44,690 --> 00:56:43,680
in single foul walking through the

1240
00:56:47,569 --> 00:56:44,700
forest

1241
00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:47,579
a hundred yards from where we entered

1242
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:49,980
the woods to the power line straight

1243
00:56:54,290 --> 00:56:52,740
across through the woods to a big high

1244
00:56:57,170 --> 00:56:54,300
tension power line

1245
00:56:58,849 --> 00:56:57,180
took 15 minutes to walk from one side to

1246
00:57:00,049 --> 00:56:58,859
the other through these Woods when we

1247
00:57:02,390 --> 00:57:00,059
got there

1248
00:57:05,930 --> 00:57:02,400
we stayed about an hour

1249
00:57:08,089 --> 00:57:05,940
so we turned around after you know just

1250
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:08,099
having a good talk and enjoying this the

1251
00:57:13,069 --> 00:57:10,079
cool air at night and all of us together

1252
00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:13,079
and so Pete's like okay we're going to

1253
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,020
take this head and go back to the car

1254
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:19,200
right so he falls in front and everybody

1255
00:57:22,370 --> 00:57:21,420
gets behind Pete and we start in the

1256
00:57:24,589 --> 00:57:22,380
forest

1257
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:24,599
and I'm right behind Chase I'm bringing

1258
00:57:29,870 --> 00:57:26,880
up the rear and I tell a lot more in the

1259
00:57:33,530 --> 00:57:29,880
book about what I was doing

1260
00:57:35,089 --> 00:57:33,540
uh how I figured out a NASA friend told

1261
00:57:36,589 --> 00:57:35,099
me what to do

1262
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,599
and I don't want to give these

1263
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,400
cigarettes away because it's pretty

1264
00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:40,559
amazing stuff

1265
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,380
and I did what he told me and a long

1266
00:57:49,010 --> 00:57:44,880
story short

1267
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:49,020
when where we entered the woods to start

1268
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:52,079
with to go to the power line we walked

1269
00:57:56,089 --> 00:57:53,760
we were parked in the field of being

1270
00:57:59,930 --> 00:57:56,099
field as soon as we go in the woods is a

1271
00:58:02,270 --> 00:57:59,940
big ditch big deep dry dish no water in

1272
00:58:04,849 --> 00:58:02,280
it so we go down in the ditch and we

1273
00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:04,859
come out we walk 15 minutes

1274
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:07,619
go to the power line we start back and

1275
00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:09,839
our goal is to come out at the car so

1276
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,460
you got to go through the ditch and

1277
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:13,440
there's the car this part right near the

1278
00:58:21,890 --> 00:58:14,760
ditch

1279
00:58:23,390 --> 00:58:21,900
the other side we walked back out on the

1280
00:58:25,609 --> 00:58:23,400
power line

1281
00:58:27,770 --> 00:58:25,619
and Pete looked at me and said what in

1282
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,780
the world happened I mean he had his

1283
00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:29,520
eyes were literally this big and

1284
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:31,800
everybody's like oh my god what happened

1285
00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:36,000
well I knew what happened I saw it I saw

1286
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,280
the I saw the the Asha from this this

1287
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,200
beam that was there I showed it to chase

1288
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,599
she saw it

1289
00:58:50,930 --> 00:58:47,760
but um no wait wait wait wait wait wait

1290
00:58:52,329 --> 00:58:50,940
pump the brakes Chris I can't give too

1291
00:58:55,910 --> 00:58:52,339
much of this away

1292
00:58:59,630 --> 00:58:55,920
no no no oh you save it for the book I

1293
00:59:01,910 --> 00:58:59,640
shine yeah what what is that

1294
00:59:04,609 --> 00:59:01,920
well something peeped around the tree at

1295
00:59:06,770 --> 00:59:04,619
us and took a peep at us and it looked

1296
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:06,780
like two glowing green orbs about this

1297
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:09,119
big but there was something else there

1298
00:59:14,930 --> 00:59:12,420
yeah I'm in line behind Pete oh check uh

1299
00:59:16,970 --> 00:59:14,940
Chase I tapped her on the back and I

1300
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,980
pointed just like that she looked and

1301
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,960
was oh my God and right after that we

1302
00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,160
lost time

1303
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:22,319
it was during that time that we had

1304
00:59:26,510 --> 00:59:23,640
missing time

1305
00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:26,520
so she calls me on Monday

1306
00:59:31,309 --> 00:59:28,980
uh that was on Saturday night she called

1307
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,319
me Sunday or Monday and all these people

1308
00:59:35,809 --> 00:59:33,119
they had these Ghost Hunters they had

1309
00:59:38,089 --> 00:59:35,819
helmets on they had this they had all

1310
00:59:39,650 --> 00:59:38,099
kind of detectors and timers and stuff

1311
00:59:42,049 --> 00:59:39,660
in their cars and

1312
00:59:44,329 --> 00:59:42,059
uh she calls me she says you're not

1313
00:59:45,950 --> 00:59:44,339
going to believe what happened to us the

1314
00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:45,960
other night I said yeah I know what

1315
00:59:49,549 --> 00:59:48,599
happened Chase we lost 15 minutes of

1316
00:59:52,190 --> 00:59:49,559
time

1317
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:52,200
she said oh my God how did you know that

1318
00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:55,440
she said it was exactly 12 minutes

1319
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,180
I said because that's how long it took

1320
01:00:02,829 --> 00:59:59,760
to walk from one side to the other

1321
01:00:07,069 --> 01:00:02,839
we just didn't remember walking

1322
01:00:09,230 --> 01:00:07,079
from the to the ditch the second time

1323
01:00:12,170 --> 01:00:09,240
the first time right right right right

1324
01:00:14,049 --> 01:00:12,180
right right well yeah and they recorded

1325
01:00:17,390 --> 01:00:14,059
it with their helmets and all that stuff

1326
01:00:21,230 --> 01:00:17,400
and uh did you talk to Pete after that

1327
01:00:23,930 --> 01:00:21,240
yeah straight straight man Pete how is

1328
01:00:26,210 --> 01:00:23,940
he doing okay he's doing I hadn't talked

1329
01:00:27,470 --> 01:00:26,220
to him in a long time but he's always a

1330
01:00:30,049 --> 01:00:27,480
favorite of mine

1331
01:00:32,930 --> 01:00:30,059
um no I mean after that event how was he

1332
01:00:34,910 --> 01:00:32,940
doing his head was blown his head my arm

1333
01:00:37,370 --> 01:00:34,920
was blown everything Chase talks about

1334
01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:37,380
this she's just not written a book on it

1335
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,520
yet but

1336
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:40,559
she talks about it you get her on your

1337
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:43,200
show she'll tell you about it ah Chase

1338
01:00:49,930 --> 01:00:48,480
klutsky yeah yeah this is crazy it's so

1339
01:00:53,089 --> 01:00:49,940
um

1340
01:00:56,270 --> 01:00:53,099
the there are three things on the cover

1341
01:01:00,829 --> 01:00:56,280
of the book without giving anything away

1342
01:01:02,890 --> 01:01:00,839
um uh no four actually and uh except for

1343
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:02,900
the clouds of Fire

1344
01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:06,480
this is uh this has got everybody

1345
01:01:12,589 --> 01:01:10,680
talking oh and what I mean is this we've

1346
01:01:14,329 --> 01:01:12,599
got of course missing time which we've

1347
01:01:16,609 --> 01:01:14,339
been talking about

1348
01:01:18,289 --> 01:01:16,619
um healings people talk about that a lot

1349
01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:18,299
right

1350
01:01:29,809 --> 01:01:22,819
is

1351
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:29,819
yeah popular people are talking about it

1352
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:33,180
um it's been on uh many TV shows uh

1353
01:01:37,730 --> 01:01:35,460
there's uh it's been mentioned now in a

1354
01:01:41,089 --> 01:01:37,740
few books uh friends of yours friends

1355
01:01:43,309 --> 01:01:41,099
people are talking about hitchhikers

1356
01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:43,319
um can you give me uh your first

1357
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:44,700
experience

1358
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:48,000
uh when uh not only with the hitchhiker

1359
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:49,440
but when you step back and went well

1360
01:01:55,370 --> 01:01:53,099
okay I guess this is happening

1361
01:01:58,490 --> 01:01:55,380
um I had no noticed it a long time ago

1362
01:01:59,569 --> 01:01:58,500
uh especially

1363
01:02:03,289 --> 01:01:59,579
um

1364
01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:03,299
uh well there's certain people that that

1365
01:02:08,089 --> 01:02:05,940
are public now like Dr Bob McGuire he's

1366
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:08,099
one of them that talks about how it

1367
01:02:12,349 --> 01:02:09,839
followed him home and I told him it's

1368
01:02:14,569 --> 01:02:12,359
going to follow you home Bob I can

1369
01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:14,579
promise you that because it told me I

1370
01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:16,680
knew it was going to it wasn't something

1371
01:02:20,990 --> 01:02:18,420
that just happened

1372
01:02:22,930 --> 01:02:21,000
he had an experience here with me that

1373
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:22,940
changed his life

1374
01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:28,799
orbs right over my head a lot of them

1375
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:31,619
flashing off at him and he was like oh

1376
01:02:35,630 --> 01:02:33,599
my God he was seeing this

1377
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:35,640
a lot of times it appear right over me

1378
01:02:41,089 --> 01:02:38,400
sometimes it looks like fire like a

1379
01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:41,099
flame a yellow flame around me I've had

1380
01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:43,380
it appear next to my arm and I'm like oh

1381
01:02:49,930 --> 01:02:46,440
my God and it's burning right here and

1382
01:02:55,010 --> 01:02:49,940
um while sitting in a chair it's done

1383
01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:55,020
but it that term hitchhiker and I told

1384
01:02:59,569 --> 01:02:56,700
them when we put that in the book that's

1385
01:03:00,829 --> 01:02:59,579
kind of a negative turn to me but it

1386
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,839
describes

1387
01:03:05,870 --> 01:03:02,160
um

1388
01:03:08,089 --> 01:03:05,880
something that that follows you home the

1389
01:03:09,650 --> 01:03:08,099
phenomenon we'll go home with you and I

1390
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:09,660
know a lot of people that's been here

1391
01:03:13,490 --> 01:03:12,000
that that's happened to a lot of people

1392
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:13,500
and

1393
01:03:18,589 --> 01:03:16,079
uh sometimes they can't make it happen

1394
01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:18,599
any longer and sometimes it does it a

1395
01:03:22,849 --> 01:03:21,000
while and it and it goes away or they

1396
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:22,859
call me back and it starts all over

1397
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,020
again yeah it's something that they

1398
01:03:29,210 --> 01:03:27,599
don't sign up for right right right

1399
01:03:31,970 --> 01:03:29,220
you're not volunteering for the

1400
01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:31,980
hitchhiker program

1401
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,740
oh these most of the time everybody that

1402
01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:37,200
I've noticed it happened to they're not

1403
01:03:39,970 --> 01:03:39,240
afraid

1404
01:03:43,970 --> 01:03:39,980
um

1405
01:03:48,650 --> 01:03:43,980
they saw it here that accepted it and

1406
01:03:51,289 --> 01:03:48,660
was amazed by it and I get the word it's

1407
01:03:53,089 --> 01:03:51,299
going to go home with you and it does in

1408
01:03:54,289 --> 01:03:53,099
fact one of your friends that were here

1409
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:54,299
recently

1410
01:03:58,690 --> 01:03:56,400
I told him that was going to happen and

1411
01:04:03,349 --> 01:03:58,700
it happened to him

1412
01:04:04,849 --> 01:04:03,359
text me who so I can uh call him uh call

1413
01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:04,859
him tomorrow

1414
01:04:12,289 --> 01:04:08,400
um now you've mentioned orange a lot

1415
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,299
tonight what two colors represent

1416
01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:14,400
I hear people talk about that all the

1417
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:17,640
time and I don't have a clue

1418
01:04:24,289 --> 01:04:19,760
um because these orbs are all colors

1419
01:04:29,030 --> 01:04:24,299
they're in my house just this last month

1420
01:04:31,970 --> 01:04:29,040
we saw uh I saw a green one in my room

1421
01:04:34,609 --> 01:04:31,980
um I got up to come outside and

1422
01:04:36,589 --> 01:04:34,619
uh just check this guy I go out about

1423
01:04:38,329 --> 01:04:36,599
every night to see if it's cloudy or if

1424
01:04:39,770 --> 01:04:38,339
it's you know a lot of times this time

1425
01:04:41,569 --> 01:04:39,780
of the year you don't get me any good

1426
01:04:43,789 --> 01:04:41,579
nights so I walked out for a few minutes

1427
01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:43,799
I came back in the house my wife

1428
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:46,260
looked up at me and she said

1429
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:46,799
um

1430
01:04:52,130 --> 01:04:49,020
she was still in the same chair

1431
01:04:54,829 --> 01:04:52,140
she said when you walked out the door a

1432
01:04:56,329 --> 01:04:54,839
green orb appeared in your chair right

1433
01:04:59,089 --> 01:04:56,339
where you were sitting

1434
01:05:00,609 --> 01:04:59,099
and it started sizzling making an

1435
01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:00,619
electrical sound

1436
01:05:05,930 --> 01:05:03,359
like so it's about this big around it

1437
01:05:08,990 --> 01:05:05,940
was glowing bright green and she said

1438
01:05:11,930 --> 01:05:09,000
and subtly it thought it just went pop

1439
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:11,940
uh it exploded and it filled the whole

1440
01:05:16,069 --> 01:05:13,920
room with green light

1441
01:05:17,890 --> 01:05:16,079
well we've seen orange ones we've seen

1442
01:05:21,710 --> 01:05:17,900
yellow ones

1443
01:05:24,650 --> 01:05:21,720
but there has never been any negative of

1444
01:05:27,170 --> 01:05:24,660
any kind I I don't really know I've seen

1445
01:05:31,370 --> 01:05:27,180
them change colors from white to

1446
01:05:35,770 --> 01:05:31,380
to Green the red the yellow to Orange to

1447
01:05:40,910 --> 01:05:38,809
uh have you have you ever shined a laser

1448
01:05:43,609 --> 01:05:40,920
at one

1449
01:05:45,710 --> 01:05:43,619
yeah I have a lot of people say you need

1450
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:45,720
to get a laser well I don't need a laser

1451
01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:48,720
to make them appear or to get them to

1452
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:51,660
move or do anything I'm not referring to

1453
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:53,839
that uh

1454
01:05:59,210 --> 01:05:55,920
a laser

1455
01:06:02,030 --> 01:05:59,220
will either bounce off of it

1456
01:06:05,329 --> 01:06:02,040
or pass through it yeah I've seen both

1457
01:06:08,569 --> 01:06:05,339
I've seen both phenomenon right and I'm

1458
01:06:10,730 --> 01:06:08,579
just curious if uh you know you've got a

1459
01:06:12,650 --> 01:06:10,740
high altitude orange orb out there if

1460
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:12,660
you fired one of those you know

1461
01:06:16,190 --> 01:06:14,280
high-powered lasers at it if you're

1462
01:06:18,829 --> 01:06:16,200
going to see it reflect off of it which

1463
01:06:21,410 --> 01:06:18,839
would indicate a solid object or if it

1464
01:06:23,329 --> 01:06:21,420
would pass through it which is some kind

1465
01:06:25,309 --> 01:06:23,339
of energy field

1466
01:06:28,190 --> 01:06:25,319
yeah I really don't know I haven't tried

1467
01:06:30,770 --> 01:06:28,200
that I do know that they're they're if

1468
01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:30,780
you see them in the daytime you see them

1469
01:06:37,250 --> 01:06:33,299
uh up close when they're not highly

1470
01:06:40,069 --> 01:06:37,260
energized they look exactly like the orb

1471
01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:40,079
on the cover of my book

1472
01:06:45,529 --> 01:06:43,020
I um I was with a group of people I

1473
01:06:47,450 --> 01:06:45,539
don't know if Lori was there she might

1474
01:06:48,829 --> 01:06:47,460
have been this particular year it's

1475
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:48,839
about eight years ago

1476
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,380
and I got this I'm gonna guess Chris if

1477
01:06:56,690 --> 01:06:54,240
I was gonna give a guest to him and I'm

1478
01:06:58,609 --> 01:06:56,700
going to say 50 foot

1479
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:58,619
um green orb it's going across the

1480
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:00,960
desert low across the desert and it

1481
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:03,480
turns up and and heads up and it

1482
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:05,280
eventually just goes into space right

1483
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,680
and there's a couple hundred of us we

1484
01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:10,319
all see this thing in video and it was

1485
01:07:14,990 --> 01:07:13,140
it was incredible I'm watching it uh

1486
01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:15,000
through the night vision

1487
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:16,920
and it's tracking across the desert

1488
01:07:22,250 --> 01:07:19,440
floor it's big man it's about a mile

1489
01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:22,260
away it's not far right and but ever

1490
01:07:27,950 --> 01:07:24,420
there's like four or five six people

1491
01:07:30,049 --> 01:07:27,960
those military lasers so I'm looking at

1492
01:07:32,930 --> 01:07:30,059
it uh and I think I've got like a

1493
01:07:35,390 --> 01:07:32,940
two-time night vision so I'm seeing it

1494
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:35,400
enlarged uh somewhat in the night vision

1495
01:07:40,849 --> 01:07:37,980
I can clearly see it but I'm watching

1496
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:40,859
the lasers as people are pointing at it

1497
01:07:47,329 --> 01:07:44,280
bounce off of it I thought it was a

1498
01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:47,339
glowing I didn't know if it was solid or

1499
01:07:51,950 --> 01:07:49,260
not but I was thinking it was in some

1500
01:07:53,930 --> 01:07:51,960
kind of energy ball until I saw the

1501
01:07:56,029 --> 01:07:53,940
laser go across the front of it and

1502
01:07:58,910 --> 01:07:56,039
Sparkle and bounce off of it it's like

1503
01:08:02,329 --> 01:07:58,920
holy crap that's solid yeah it's just a

1504
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:02,339
solid ball and I we watched this for

1505
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:04,079
about five minutes it was a long time

1506
01:08:07,569 --> 01:08:05,700
man this thing going across and then

1507
01:08:10,010 --> 01:08:07,579
eventually you know turning up and

1508
01:08:12,589 --> 01:08:10,020
stopped and turned into a star but while

1509
01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:12,599
it was going across and started to turn

1510
01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:14,280
up everybody was hitting it with their

1511
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:17,400
lasers and so I've done that a lot since

1512
01:08:21,890 --> 01:08:19,440
then to see if the laser will bounce off

1513
01:08:23,870 --> 01:08:21,900
or pass through it it's uh something

1514
01:08:26,990 --> 01:08:23,880
that I think you should you should have

1515
01:08:29,390 --> 01:08:27,000
one in in your little shed there yeah in

1516
01:08:32,209 --> 01:08:29,400
your little workspace for for when this

1517
01:08:33,950 --> 01:08:32,219
happens just go out and see yeah if it's

1518
01:08:36,050 --> 01:08:33,960
solid or not

1519
01:08:37,729 --> 01:08:36,060
yeah well you know a lot of times they

1520
01:08:38,689 --> 01:08:37,739
appear ground level

1521
01:08:43,309 --> 01:08:38,699
um

1522
01:08:46,669 --> 01:08:43,319
right near me 25 feet 10 feet 5 feet off

1523
01:08:50,030 --> 01:08:46,679
my son Ryan has a friend named Tom

1524
01:08:51,950 --> 01:08:50,040
Barber he's a musician for with a group

1525
01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:51,960
called Chelsea Grin

1526
01:08:58,910 --> 01:08:55,020
and uh Tom's to lead vocalist with that

1527
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:58,920
group I never met him he Ryan says he's

1528
01:09:06,349 --> 01:09:01,199
he wants to come to your house well he

1529
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:06,359
brings uh Tom and his fiancee and all my

1530
01:09:12,169 --> 01:09:08,580
children came to meet him he said this

1531
01:09:13,309 --> 01:09:12,179
guy's got a pretty big followers you

1532
01:09:15,950 --> 01:09:13,319
know you probably know what I'm talking

1533
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:15,960
about yep yep yep yep well anyhow we're

1534
01:09:20,630 --> 01:09:18,540
standing 20 feet from here

1535
01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:20,640
and um

1536
01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:24,120
I drew my hands up in the air which I

1537
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:27,239
feel a connection when I do that and

1538
01:09:32,209 --> 01:09:29,759
um immediately they started appearing

1539
01:09:35,809 --> 01:09:32,219
and they appeared as close as 10 feet

1540
01:09:38,349 --> 01:09:35,819
over our heads a half a dozen of them

1541
01:09:41,689 --> 01:09:38,359
and sometimes they'll be this big

1542
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,699
sometimes they'll be this big sometimes

1543
01:09:46,729 --> 01:09:43,679
they'll come right over our head and

1544
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:46,739
leave Sparks in a streak when they come

1545
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:49,199
over like I call them streakers they'll

1546
01:09:54,770 --> 01:09:52,080
go up and down undulating when they fly

1547
01:09:57,709 --> 01:09:54,780
so there's never no telling what size

1548
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:57,719
you're going to see and uh but

1549
01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:00,239
I'm pretty sure they're they're

1550
01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:02,520
translucent when they're not energized

1551
01:10:10,010 --> 01:10:06,900
they look like a raindrop yeah sure sure

1552
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,020
um almost camouflaged right stealthy you

1553
01:10:14,450 --> 01:10:12,000
know blending in with the background and

1554
01:10:17,870 --> 01:10:14,460
you wouldn't see them at all

1555
01:10:19,970 --> 01:10:17,880
um uh really quick because I'm going to

1556
01:10:21,709 --> 01:10:19,980
move on to some other stuff and some

1557
01:10:23,630 --> 01:10:21,719
current events of course

1558
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,640
um what are clouds of Fire

1559
01:10:28,130 --> 01:10:25,679
I'm glad you asked that

1560
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:28,140
um you you you've heard of Diana the

1561
01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:30,239
salka right I studied with her for a

1562
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:32,219
long time and some other

1563
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:35,040
uh pretty amazing scholars in the

1564
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,719
biblical world

1565
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:38,880
and um

1566
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:43,980
what we know is in the biblical days

1567
01:10:49,250 --> 01:10:46,140
they the the

1568
01:10:52,189 --> 01:10:49,260
let's just say this Diana told me she

1569
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:52,199
said George zervos and uh George is a

1570
01:10:57,709 --> 01:10:54,719
was the chair in Wilmington where she

1571
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:57,719
worked until he stepped down and she

1572
01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:00,239
took the position George is writing a

1573
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:02,719
book for Princeton University called The

1574
01:11:09,890 --> 01:11:06,239
Apocalypse of James the brother of Jesus

1575
01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:09,900
uh is a big two-volume series you had to

1576
01:11:14,990 --> 01:11:12,600
write Mega Thick bucks so he stepped

1577
01:11:16,370 --> 01:11:15,000
down anyhow I studied with George Moore

1578
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,380
and Diana

1579
01:11:19,850 --> 01:11:18,719
but one thing they both told me is that

1580
01:11:21,890 --> 01:11:19,860
they saw

1581
01:11:26,209 --> 01:11:21,900
with their own eyes

1582
01:11:29,390 --> 01:11:26,219
that the word cloud in the Bible when

1583
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:29,400
King James 500 years ago translated the

1584
01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:32,640
Bible from the original Greek into

1585
01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:36,260
English that they intentionally

1586
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:39,300
mistranslated the word cloud

1587
01:11:44,330 --> 01:11:41,760
so you can look it up in the strong

1588
01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:44,340
coordinates for Hebrew words and it's

1589
01:11:49,250 --> 01:11:47,460
not there it's got missing somehow

1590
01:11:51,530 --> 01:11:49,260
but they turn it into a weather

1591
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:51,540
phenomenon but throughout the whole

1592
01:11:56,270 --> 01:11:53,040
Bible

1593
01:11:59,450 --> 01:11:56,280
when it refers to Angels or it refers to

1594
01:12:04,310 --> 01:11:59,460
Jesus coming back over and over he says

1595
01:12:07,010 --> 01:12:04,320
when I come back I'm coming riding on or

1596
01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:07,020
in Clouds Of Heaven

1597
01:12:12,530 --> 01:12:10,260
the Clouds Of Heaven over and over and

1598
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:12,540
over I'm coming back riding in the

1599
01:12:20,510 --> 01:12:17,520
clouds or in Exodus when Moses was in

1600
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:20,520
the desert with all these people there

1601
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,000
was a pillar of a cloud

1602
01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:26,640
that went before the children of Israel

1603
01:12:32,990 --> 01:12:30,120
for 38 years and it was on fire at night

1604
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:33,000
and it fed a Manna in the morning and

1605
01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:35,699
gave him shade by day and for 38 years

1606
01:12:41,890 --> 01:12:39,060
where that cloud went

1607
01:12:44,510 --> 01:12:41,900
they stayed up underneath it until it

1608
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:44,520
looked away man it was a flashlight too

1609
01:12:50,689 --> 01:12:48,480
yeah yeah yeah so these are clouds in

1610
01:12:52,130 --> 01:12:50,699
the Bible were these same things that

1611
01:12:54,110 --> 01:12:52,140
we're seeing today

1612
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:54,120
it's the same exact thing I don't care

1613
01:12:59,870 --> 01:12:57,840
what anybody says it's a fact and I've

1614
01:13:03,590 --> 01:12:59,880
studied it enough and if anybody does

1615
01:13:05,450 --> 01:13:03,600
they'll find the same answers I've

1616
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:05,460
studied this with the best of the best

1617
01:13:10,910 --> 01:13:08,880
and so why did they change that why did

1618
01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:10,920
they not want us to know that why did

1619
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:15,000
they turn an object in the sky

1620
01:13:21,649 --> 01:13:18,360
um into because Exodus that says an

1621
01:13:25,610 --> 01:13:21,659
angel of the Lord went before the

1622
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:25,620
children in a pillar of a cloud

1623
01:13:33,050 --> 01:13:30,000
well a pillar being a cylinder

1624
01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:33,060
a cylinder machine right

1625
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,360
so this is why this is in that book I'm

1626
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:38,880
trying to bring this to the world

1627
01:13:44,570 --> 01:13:41,040
for people to see

1628
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:44,580
and study and find out and Spark an

1629
01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:47,760
interest where maybe one day we can all

1630
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,560
come together and talk about this and

1631
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,360
figure out exactly what's happening

1632
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:54,000
because I don't profess to know

1633
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:56,880
but I know that it's that there's things

1634
01:14:02,090 --> 01:13:59,520
that's been hidden from us do you think

1635
01:14:03,890 --> 01:14:02,100
is it as simple as something Lost in

1636
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:03,900
Translation

1637
01:14:07,729 --> 01:14:06,480
um in that they're trying to they're

1638
01:14:10,030 --> 01:14:07,739
trying to tell us something man it's

1639
01:14:13,610 --> 01:14:10,040
it's up there right it's it's it's

1640
01:14:15,770 --> 01:14:13,620
flying right right but there's something

1641
01:14:18,890 --> 01:14:15,780
lost in the transit they didn't have a

1642
01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:18,900
way they didn't have the words to

1643
01:14:24,050 --> 01:14:21,600
express it with did they she told me she

1644
01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,060
saw both translations and they

1645
01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:26,520
intentionally took the wrong one right

1646
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:28,920
she told me that and she said I can

1647
01:14:33,649 --> 01:14:31,199
never tell this but you can I'm giving

1648
01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:33,659
you this information you do what you

1649
01:14:39,410 --> 01:14:37,080
want with it but I can never say it and

1650
01:14:42,590 --> 01:14:39,420
um that's that's where they come from

1651
01:14:44,990 --> 01:14:42,600
and I've studied this for 16 15 years

1652
01:14:47,689 --> 01:14:45,000
about it

1653
01:14:49,250 --> 01:14:47,699
um what do you what do you make of uh

1654
01:14:53,090 --> 01:14:49,260
Chris

1655
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,100
um everything when I in its totality

1656
01:14:58,189 --> 01:14:55,679
we've got a lot of crap going on you

1657
01:15:00,110 --> 01:14:58,199
know and in the last five years since

1658
01:15:02,090 --> 01:15:00,120
2017

1659
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:02,100
since you've come forward too as well

1660
01:15:05,390 --> 01:15:03,600
right right

1661
01:15:07,610 --> 01:15:05,400
everything under the sun has happened

1662
01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:07,620
everything everything and anything that

1663
01:15:11,450 --> 01:15:09,960
we can imagine all the way to the point

1664
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:11,460
where and I'm not saying there's a

1665
01:15:15,470 --> 01:15:13,280
connection but it definitely happened

1666
01:15:18,169 --> 01:15:15,480
you know we're shooting missiles over

1667
01:15:21,290 --> 01:15:18,179
North America now you know and objects

1668
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,300
so we've even got that and I would have

1669
01:15:26,149 --> 01:15:23,520
never ever thought of my wildest dreams

1670
01:15:29,870 --> 01:15:26,159
that this kind of stuff would uh be

1671
01:15:31,790 --> 01:15:29,880
happening but uh what do you make of it

1672
01:15:35,630 --> 01:15:31,800
what do you make of the Department of

1673
01:15:38,570 --> 01:15:35,640
Defense odni reports Congress the Senate

1674
01:15:40,090 --> 01:15:38,580
the president uh press conferences

1675
01:15:43,910 --> 01:15:40,100
meetings

1676
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:43,920
uh uh stuff written in the legislature

1677
01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:46,159
uh budget

1678
01:15:51,709 --> 01:15:49,380
we've got everything going I didn't even

1679
01:15:54,350 --> 01:15:51,719
mention pilots and sightings and video

1680
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,360
and images and didn't even get into all

1681
01:16:00,290 --> 01:15:56,400
of that it's all been going down what do

1682
01:16:03,410 --> 01:16:00,300
you think is happening well uh from I

1683
01:16:05,810 --> 01:16:03,420
think if everyone reads this book

1684
01:16:08,330 --> 01:16:05,820
um the government wants to tell us the

1685
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:08,340
truth they want to but they don't know

1686
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:10,140
how

1687
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:12,900
um government's a big thing and it takes

1688
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:15,360
a lot of people coming together to agree

1689
01:16:20,090 --> 01:16:17,520
on anything and a lot of them don't want

1690
01:16:22,610 --> 01:16:20,100
to tell it but a lot do but for the most

1691
01:16:26,030 --> 01:16:22,620
part is so complex

1692
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,040
is conscience based they know this

1693
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,320
so how do you describe this how do you

1694
01:16:33,169 --> 01:16:30,080
tell it um

1695
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:33,179
if if you read my book I think you'll

1696
01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:35,280
learn something that the government

1697
01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:38,100
wants to tell us but just don't know how

1698
01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:40,440
and you know I've worked with them for

1699
01:16:45,229 --> 01:16:42,960
15 years this is something I've never

1700
01:16:49,870 --> 01:16:45,239
talked about I always hit it

1701
01:16:53,510 --> 01:16:49,880
uh way back when I started with them in

1702
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:53,520
2008 that was it was top secret then

1703
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:55,679
there wasn't no talking about you if I

1704
01:17:00,890 --> 01:16:59,280
was at all and 2016 they got a little

1705
01:17:03,290 --> 01:17:00,900
bit looser on it

1706
01:17:04,250 --> 01:17:03,300
but I still never talked about what I

1707
01:17:07,370 --> 01:17:04,260
was doing

1708
01:17:09,709 --> 01:17:07,380
or who I was working with and I wanted

1709
01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:09,719
to so bad because people would rid of

1710
01:17:13,970 --> 01:17:11,640
kill me and I just want to say if you

1711
01:17:17,570 --> 01:17:13,980
only knew I'm working on stem cell

1712
01:17:18,770 --> 01:17:17,580
research with NASA you know I wanted to

1713
01:17:22,250 --> 01:17:18,780
say that

1714
01:17:23,870 --> 01:17:22,260
but I took the beating from everybody uh

1715
01:17:25,490 --> 01:17:23,880
hoping you know that would have made a

1716
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:25,500
difference at least I thought it would

1717
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:28,320
but I write about this in the book and

1718
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,480
uh the government folks were the only

1719
01:17:35,630 --> 01:17:32,960
ones that made sense to me the public

1720
01:17:37,729 --> 01:17:35,640
ostracized the whole family and treated

1721
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:37,739
us bad and

1722
01:17:43,610 --> 01:17:40,560
um of course at that time the UFO world

1723
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,620
was into the nuts and bolts and I'm

1724
01:17:47,810 --> 01:17:45,840
claiming spiritual

1725
01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:47,820
and they were like that's too much for

1726
01:17:53,450 --> 01:17:51,060
us but I never I never wavered in all

1727
01:17:56,570 --> 01:17:53,460
these years because and the government

1728
01:17:57,830 --> 01:17:56,580
knew they knew they knew back then they

1729
01:18:01,010 --> 01:17:57,840
know it's real

1730
01:18:04,669 --> 01:18:01,020
and what's happening now

1731
01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:04,679
I think that in 2020 during the coveted

1732
01:18:11,570 --> 01:18:08,460
pandemic the government uh told it they

1733
01:18:13,790 --> 01:18:11,580
told everybody the world that it's real

1734
01:18:16,189 --> 01:18:13,800
it's really real they told it right

1735
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:16,199
during the pandemic and and so many

1736
01:18:21,709 --> 01:18:18,000
people didn't pay attention to it they

1737
01:18:24,490 --> 01:18:21,719
were focused on Covert but now NADA I'm

1738
01:18:26,930 --> 01:18:24,500
not NATO but uh NORAD

1739
01:18:31,070 --> 01:18:26,940
started becoming a little bit more

1740
01:18:33,470 --> 01:18:31,080
public about what they're seeing and I

1741
01:18:34,970 --> 01:18:33,480
can tell you Jimmy the balloons don't

1742
01:18:36,830 --> 01:18:34,980
explain it all

1743
01:18:37,729 --> 01:18:36,840
they're seeing stuff all around the

1744
01:18:41,450 --> 01:18:37,739
world

1745
01:18:42,770 --> 01:18:41,460
and um I think they if I if I ran the

1746
01:18:46,490 --> 01:18:42,780
government

1747
01:18:48,649 --> 01:18:46,500
uh like Mr Biden I would do I would

1748
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:48,659
start telling a little bit at the time

1749
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:51,120
trying to condition the public

1750
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:53,699
before some whistleblower

1751
01:18:58,189 --> 01:18:55,920
come along and scared the whole world

1752
01:18:59,810 --> 01:18:58,199
right I think they were worried about me

1753
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,820
doing that so

1754
01:19:03,890 --> 01:19:00,960
but

1755
01:19:05,390 --> 01:19:03,900
um we've heard a we've heard a lot of

1756
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:05,400
chatter

1757
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:09,199
on this program and others uh about

1758
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:14,640
uh some of the uh elected officials and

1759
01:19:20,450 --> 01:19:16,560
military officials inside of Washington

1760
01:19:24,649 --> 01:19:20,460
D.C that have a religious background and

1761
01:19:26,689 --> 01:19:24,659
upbringing that are very concerned uh

1762
01:19:30,350 --> 01:19:26,699
about the religious component of this

1763
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:30,360
and I I kind of I didn't laugh it off

1764
01:19:36,410 --> 01:19:32,880
originally when I started to hear this

1765
01:19:39,169 --> 01:19:36,420
many years ago uh but this was something

1766
01:19:44,290 --> 01:19:39,179
that was going on and it was a concern

1767
01:19:47,330 --> 01:19:44,300
yeah and uh where he's

1768
01:19:49,250 --> 01:19:47,340
military-minded you know uh an elected

1769
01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:49,260
I'm just going to say this directly an

1770
01:19:54,530 --> 01:19:51,780
elected official says hey you know

1771
01:19:56,750 --> 01:19:54,540
be careful man that they could be demons

1772
01:19:59,570 --> 01:19:56,760
right be careful who you're reaching out

1773
01:20:02,510 --> 01:19:59,580
to consciously right it could be you we

1774
01:20:04,729 --> 01:20:02,520
could make you know we've and this was

1775
01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:04,739
something that was discussed wasn't it

1776
01:20:11,209 --> 01:20:07,679
yeah absolutely and in fact I say the

1777
01:20:12,649 --> 01:20:11,219
same thing the if if you seek this you

1778
01:20:15,229 --> 01:20:12,659
need to make sure your heart's in the

1779
01:20:17,570 --> 01:20:15,239
right place because

1780
01:20:20,510 --> 01:20:17,580
um without the right grounding and

1781
01:20:22,729 --> 01:20:20,520
without a little faith and

1782
01:20:26,050 --> 01:20:22,739
um positivity you might get something

1783
01:20:29,330 --> 01:20:26,060
you don't want I mean because this is

1784
01:20:31,310 --> 01:20:29,340
Supernatural everything I as all I can

1785
01:20:34,450 --> 01:20:31,320
say is it's like Supernatural is

1786
01:20:37,370 --> 01:20:34,460
conscience based it it acts like

1787
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:37,380
Supernatural but I'd never run across

1788
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:39,600
anything negative in my

1789
01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:42,080
16 years of this

1790
01:20:47,689 --> 01:20:45,600
not yet not yet I'm not saying it's not

1791
01:20:49,390 --> 01:20:47,699
out there because weather's good there's

1792
01:20:52,010 --> 01:20:49,400
bad

1793
01:20:53,810 --> 01:20:52,020
but Chris help me under this is where I

1794
01:20:55,610 --> 01:20:53,820
get confused and I just want to

1795
01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:55,620
understand

1796
01:20:59,149 --> 01:20:57,780
um you and I know each other well and

1797
01:21:00,830 --> 01:20:59,159
you've always said to me Jimmy just

1798
01:21:03,010 --> 01:21:00,840
don't hold back ask me whatever you want

1799
01:21:05,709 --> 01:21:03,020
to ask so

1800
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:05,719
when Chris Jr

1801
01:21:11,630 --> 01:21:08,239
is eye to eye

1802
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:11,640
with I'm going to say an E.T a species

1803
01:21:15,709 --> 01:21:14,000
E.T right

1804
01:21:20,450 --> 01:21:15,719
that's

1805
01:21:24,709 --> 01:21:20,460
we're talking about a physical being

1806
01:21:26,810 --> 01:21:24,719
there right well other things can if you

1807
01:21:28,910 --> 01:21:26,820
read the Biblical scripture what they

1808
01:21:30,830 --> 01:21:28,920
were seeing we don't know what they were

1809
01:21:33,350 --> 01:21:30,840
seeing they called them Angels they

1810
01:21:36,530 --> 01:21:33,360
called them the the prophets in the

1811
01:21:39,290 --> 01:21:36,540
bible were seeing these things and they

1812
01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:39,300
labeled them Angelic beings ministering

1813
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:40,860
spirits but

1814
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:43,679
uh it even says there they can be

1815
01:21:47,930 --> 01:21:46,320
physical or non-physical no I I

1816
01:21:49,610 --> 01:21:47,940
understand that I understand that I'm

1817
01:21:53,270 --> 01:21:49,620
specifically talking about Chris though

1818
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:53,280
right and what he encountered does he

1819
01:21:57,490 --> 01:21:56,400
does he feel it was a religious moment

1820
01:22:00,590 --> 01:21:57,500
or

1821
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:00,600
E.T from Zeta reticuli stopping by to

1822
01:22:07,550 --> 01:22:05,040
say hello he thought he was so afraid

1823
01:22:11,649 --> 01:22:07,560
it scared him so bad

1824
01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:11,659
um he was 17 years old and innocent and

1825
01:22:18,410 --> 01:22:15,540
uh out having fun fishing and then this

1826
01:22:22,729 --> 01:22:18,420
happens they didn't hurt him by any

1827
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:22,739
means it just scared him so bad and

1828
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:25,440
um it I I would tell him son

1829
01:22:31,250 --> 01:22:29,520
uh they were not they were not bad you

1830
01:22:33,410 --> 01:22:31,260
would not be here if they were bad but

1831
01:22:37,970 --> 01:22:33,420
Daddy they were that's what he would say

1832
01:22:39,950 --> 01:22:37,980
then and his dad now but they were uh I

1833
01:22:42,110 --> 01:22:39,960
think they were there were demons like

1834
01:22:43,970 --> 01:22:42,120
why would you think that son they took

1835
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:43,980
me for four hours and

1836
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:46,800
I experienced the same thing the same

1837
01:22:52,790 --> 01:22:50,880
beings on my property and it spoke to me

1838
01:22:55,209 --> 01:22:52,800
and said you don't understand we're not

1839
01:22:59,149 --> 01:22:55,219
here to harm you we're here to help you

1840
01:23:01,130 --> 01:22:59,159
I I had a really debilitating illness

1841
01:23:03,169 --> 01:23:01,140
then that went into remission

1842
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,179
immediately that night I never had

1843
01:23:08,570 --> 01:23:05,760
another symptom from Crohn's disease

1844
01:23:09,790 --> 01:23:08,580
from that day forward and for 17 and a

1845
01:23:14,810 --> 01:23:09,800
half years

1846
01:23:19,790 --> 01:23:14,820
uh uh was on medication per that

1847
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:19,800
and um so he finally come around

1848
01:23:25,550 --> 01:23:22,320
um after a few years of it

1849
01:23:29,149 --> 01:23:25,560
uh experiencing it with me and seeing

1850
01:23:30,290 --> 01:23:29,159
how it comes when I call it and how I do

1851
01:23:36,169 --> 01:23:30,300
it and

1852
01:23:40,850 --> 01:23:36,179
comes right out here and brings his his

1853
01:23:44,750 --> 01:23:40,860
uh his Grand my grandchild and Jessica

1854
01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:44,760
and he's just as happy and and excited

1855
01:23:49,669 --> 01:23:47,760
to see it as the rest of us but he did

1856
01:23:51,410 --> 01:23:49,679
such a great job with your kids man and

1857
01:23:55,810 --> 01:23:51,420
I I'm gonna say that I know Ryan's

1858
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:55,820
listening right now man he is smart yeah

1859
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:00,000
hard kid man yeah I I think about when

1860
01:24:13,729 --> 01:24:11,330
we're out doing yeah stupid stuff yeah

1861
01:24:17,209 --> 01:24:13,739
um but here's the thing

1862
01:24:19,630 --> 01:24:17,219
all right again speaking very directly

1863
01:24:22,130 --> 01:24:19,640
I don't know if you've uh checked out La

1864
01:24:24,590 --> 01:24:22,140
marzulli's work or listen to any of his

1865
01:24:26,330 --> 01:24:24,600
stuff but he is a Biblical scholar very

1866
01:24:28,490 --> 01:24:26,340
smart guy

1867
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,500
um but firmly

1868
01:24:34,850 --> 01:24:30,960
feet firmly planted in the world of ETS

1869
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:34,860
right but he understands the Bible and

1870
01:24:41,090 --> 01:24:38,159
and one thing that he says over and over

1871
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:41,100
uh to me and others is that look man if

1872
01:24:46,130 --> 01:24:43,440
you look at the Bible just just treat it

1873
01:24:48,169 --> 01:24:46,140
as science fiction just look at it like

1874
01:24:50,510 --> 01:24:48,179
that right just look at it like that and

1875
01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:50,520
then you'll understand what they are

1876
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:54,300
trying to say here which is what you are

1877
01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:57,120
suggesting right the way that Angels

1878
01:25:02,930 --> 01:24:59,280
were interpreted back then

1879
01:25:05,450 --> 01:25:02,940
you know angels and Angelic today is

1880
01:25:08,510 --> 01:25:05,460
that what we would just call E.T right

1881
01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:08,520
yeah yeah I think it's the same same

1882
01:25:13,250 --> 01:25:11,520
thing uh we can interpret it either way

1883
01:25:16,970 --> 01:25:13,260
we want but

1884
01:25:17,689 --> 01:25:16,980
and until you interact with it

1885
01:25:20,990 --> 01:25:17,699
um

1886
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:21,000
which I do on a pretty much a daily

1887
01:25:26,209 --> 01:25:24,480
basis and in front of people and the

1888
01:25:27,729 --> 01:25:26,219
people that have come here and

1889
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:27,739
experienced it

1890
01:25:34,490 --> 01:25:31,679
lives have changed forever and uh they

1891
01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:34,500
become more spiritual

1892
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:35,400
um

1893
01:25:40,430 --> 01:25:37,920
if they want to call it E.T that's okay

1894
01:25:43,070 --> 01:25:40,440
it doesn't matter what you call it it's

1895
01:25:44,810 --> 01:25:43,080
what is it what what does it do for you

1896
01:25:46,209 --> 01:25:44,820
and

1897
01:25:49,070 --> 01:25:46,219
um

1898
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:49,080
it's a beautiful thing

1899
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:51,600
I love it I mean that's where I don't

1900
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,480
have television I haven't had a TV

1901
01:26:00,590 --> 01:25:57,120
subscription in 10 years I don't watch

1902
01:26:03,050 --> 01:26:00,600
it I stay away from all negative

1903
01:26:05,510 --> 01:26:03,060
and I go out and I talk to the heavens

1904
01:26:09,050 --> 01:26:05,520
and here they come and it's like a

1905
01:26:11,390 --> 01:26:09,060
reunion every night when we see them and

1906
01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:11,400
it's just a beautiful thing it's not a

1907
01:26:16,669 --> 01:26:15,060
scary thing if if cultures uh two

1908
01:26:18,770 --> 01:26:16,679
thousand three thousand years ago Old

1909
01:26:21,530 --> 01:26:18,780
Testament you know New Testament even

1910
01:26:23,629 --> 01:26:21,540
Jesus himself right okay let's go

1911
01:26:25,490 --> 01:26:23,639
straight there if they had a knowledge

1912
01:26:30,649 --> 01:26:25,500
of planets in the solar system in the

1913
01:26:32,090 --> 01:26:30,659
Milky Way and and galaxies and and you

1914
01:26:33,709 --> 01:26:32,100
know for you know what we understand

1915
01:26:36,910 --> 01:26:33,719
today with science and physics and

1916
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:36,920
astrophysics and astronomy

1917
01:26:40,970 --> 01:26:39,360
uh do you feel that they would have

1918
01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:40,980
called them Angels or they would have

1919
01:26:47,149 --> 01:26:43,500
just said extraterrestrials or visiting

1920
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:47,159
well I think they probably both called

1921
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:49,620
it that I I don't think

1922
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:52,560
um I think back then yeah I agree with

1923
01:26:54,590 --> 01:26:53,760
you there

1924
01:26:57,590 --> 01:26:54,600
um

1925
01:26:59,689 --> 01:26:57,600
uh well let's just say yesterday

1926
01:27:03,410 --> 01:26:59,699
I think it was yesterday there was a

1927
01:27:06,770 --> 01:27:03,420
major uh News Network that came out with

1928
01:27:08,030 --> 01:27:06,780
uh and I just kind of jotted it down

1929
01:27:11,870 --> 01:27:08,040
um

1930
01:27:13,550 --> 01:27:11,880
this this professor this physicist was

1931
01:27:14,510 --> 01:27:13,560
on one of the major news channels

1932
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,520
yesterday

1933
01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:16,800
and he was talking about

1934
01:27:23,149 --> 01:27:20,040
uh how science science explains the

1935
01:27:27,770 --> 01:27:23,159
Bible it supports extraterrestrials

1936
01:27:30,350 --> 01:27:27,780
and this astronomers makes the case how

1937
01:27:32,649 --> 01:27:30,360
they have existed throughout eternity as

1938
01:27:34,729 --> 01:27:32,659
God's Messengers but yeah he caught him

1939
01:27:38,090 --> 01:27:34,739
extraterrestrials you see

1940
01:27:39,169 --> 01:27:38,100
so this is just words you know but what

1941
01:27:42,530 --> 01:27:39,179
is it

1942
01:27:45,590 --> 01:27:42,540
um and I think that's where we've got to

1943
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:45,600
all of us agree it's real and then let

1944
01:27:52,370 --> 01:27:49,199
the brains and and the testing and the

1945
01:27:55,550 --> 01:27:52,380
the the study of this began

1946
01:27:56,689 --> 01:27:55,560
um I think it complements the Bible 100

1947
01:28:00,290 --> 01:27:56,699
percent

1948
01:28:01,490 --> 01:28:00,300
I think religion has

1949
01:28:03,950 --> 01:28:01,500
um

1950
01:28:08,030 --> 01:28:03,960
has

1951
01:28:10,189 --> 01:28:08,040
off because all the rules and the

1952
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:10,199
regulations and the do's and the don'ts

1953
01:28:16,729 --> 01:28:13,920
and you know people making millions and

1954
01:28:19,070 --> 01:28:16,739
they've got homeless and sick so but I

1955
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:19,080
love the church I don't go anymore I

1956
01:28:23,870 --> 01:28:21,480
haven't been in 10 15 years other than a

1957
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:23,880
couple of times because of

1958
01:28:30,169 --> 01:28:27,120
um you know something special but

1959
01:28:32,689 --> 01:28:30,179
um but I still I'm more spiritual and I

1960
01:28:36,050 --> 01:28:32,699
feel more connected today than I was

1961
01:28:38,689 --> 01:28:36,060
when I was in the church as a deacon

1962
01:28:42,169 --> 01:28:38,699
um how do they can I ask you something

1963
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:42,179
direct well I'll always direct with you

1964
01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:44,880
um if you went to church today

1965
01:28:51,590 --> 01:28:47,760
would it be oh man here comes that UFO

1966
01:28:57,290 --> 01:28:53,870
do you feel that kind of pressure yeah

1967
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,300
it was Chris all right here we go oh

1968
01:29:00,830 --> 01:28:59,280
yeah absolutely in fact I've been taught

1969
01:29:03,229 --> 01:29:00,840
if you walk in these doors you can't

1970
01:29:07,310 --> 01:29:03,239
never talk about it

1971
01:29:10,910 --> 01:29:07,320
yeah trust me that's what turned me away

1972
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:10,920
is is accusing me of being uh you know

1973
01:29:16,250 --> 01:29:12,960
they brought holy water the very people

1974
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:16,260
I loved and the the community I was

1975
01:29:20,570 --> 01:29:18,480
raised in they were sprinkling holy

1976
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:20,580
water when I was gone and even when I

1977
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:23,520
was home on me and stuff and I'm like

1978
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:25,920
well I was praying I was sick I was

1979
01:29:30,169 --> 01:29:28,080
calling out to whoever's up there and

1980
01:29:33,290 --> 01:29:30,179
these Balls of Fire came

1981
01:29:36,050 --> 01:29:33,300
and I'm not sick anymore and it wasn't

1982
01:29:38,410 --> 01:29:36,060
it's the devil coming you pray is that

1983
01:29:43,729 --> 01:29:38,420
what y'all taught me you know

1984
01:29:46,250 --> 01:29:43,739
so with holy demon be gone yeah yeah wow

1985
01:29:48,950 --> 01:29:46,260
yeah Ryan talks about this one of the

1986
01:29:52,010 --> 01:29:48,960
worst things he said was he was about 13

1987
01:29:54,830 --> 01:29:52,020
or 14 years old seeing a guy walk in my

1988
01:29:55,970 --> 01:29:54,840
room and just force Hollywood on my head

1989
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:55,980
and stuff

1990
01:30:00,590 --> 01:29:57,840
and you know they thought they were

1991
01:30:02,990 --> 01:30:00,600
doing God's work well

1992
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,000
I don't want to be critical because I

1993
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:05,280
love the church and I love the people I

1994
01:30:11,629 --> 01:30:08,400
just think that um this time we all wake

1995
01:30:14,030 --> 01:30:11,639
up it's time we all learn that you know

1996
01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:14,040
two thousand years ago we look at these

1997
01:30:19,550 --> 01:30:16,320
people as being backwards and uneducated

1998
01:30:22,510 --> 01:30:19,560
but yet that book is the infallible word

1999
01:30:25,729 --> 01:30:22,520
of God everything in it right including

2000
01:30:28,010 --> 01:30:25,739
eating or drinking poison and and

2001
01:30:31,550 --> 01:30:28,020
holding rattlesnakes and many have died

2002
01:30:32,930 --> 01:30:31,560
because of that is is is the is the

2003
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:32,940
truth right

2004
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:36,480
so there's room to grow today

2005
01:30:40,910 --> 01:30:38,639
we got a lot of growing and

2006
01:30:43,729 --> 01:30:40,920
understanding to do and I just want to

2007
01:30:44,890 --> 01:30:43,739
start that conversation I don't care if

2008
01:30:48,110 --> 01:30:44,900
they kill me

2009
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:48,120
they may try who you know they killed

2010
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,920
Jesus right they killed the prophets

2011
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:51,360
every one of them

2012
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:55,679
so I'm in a position that I get a lot of

2013
01:31:00,950 --> 01:30:58,560
criticism because of what I say and do

2014
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:00,960
but I know what I know and I feel what I

2015
01:31:07,970 --> 01:31:02,400
feel and

2016
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:07,980
think

2017
01:31:15,649 --> 01:31:11,760
you mentioned earlier I'm talking about

2018
01:31:18,770 --> 01:31:15,659
from the government rolling into 2023

2019
01:31:21,290 --> 01:31:18,780
um it has shown no signs of slowing down

2020
01:31:23,090 --> 01:31:21,300
every time I thought we were taking a

2021
01:31:26,330 --> 01:31:23,100
dip over the last three four five years

2022
01:31:30,729 --> 01:31:26,340
here we go it's something else right it

2023
01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:30,739
takes off again uh I think 2023

2024
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:34,560
is is is something tangible what do you

2025
01:31:37,729 --> 01:31:36,000
think is going to roll out because you

2026
01:31:40,370 --> 01:31:37,739
just mentioned you know the government

2027
01:31:43,490 --> 01:31:40,380
wants to say something okay what what do

2028
01:31:46,850 --> 01:31:43,500
you think it is that they want to say

2029
01:31:50,990 --> 01:31:46,860
well I think my book tells a lot of that

2030
01:31:53,390 --> 01:31:51,000
um about how it's conscious based and um

2031
01:31:56,270 --> 01:31:53,400
they really don't know what it is they

2032
01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:56,280
don't know it's you know

2033
01:32:01,610 --> 01:31:58,800
everybody believes they have all kinds

2034
01:32:04,370 --> 01:32:01,620
of stuff and free energy and all

2035
01:32:06,229 --> 01:32:04,380
uh from the 16 years I've been around it

2036
01:32:08,030 --> 01:32:06,239
I've never heard a whisper of it and

2037
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:08,040
I've been in some really secure places

2038
01:32:13,729 --> 01:32:11,040
of course they did not show me I'm not

2039
01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:13,739
special by any means but I have been

2040
01:32:16,430 --> 01:32:15,360
able to study with some pretty smart

2041
01:32:20,689 --> 01:32:16,440
people

2042
01:32:23,390 --> 01:32:20,699
and I ask them why do you need me you

2043
01:32:25,189 --> 01:32:23,400
know here I'm at Nasa and they're in

2044
01:32:27,290 --> 01:32:25,199
their most secure facility on Earth

2045
01:32:29,330 --> 01:32:27,300
where they had machine guns pointed at

2046
01:32:31,490 --> 01:32:29,340
me when I walked through the door and

2047
01:32:34,010 --> 01:32:31,500
they had this black Booth I talked about

2048
01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:34,020
it in my book this is really weird

2049
01:32:37,550 --> 01:32:36,000
there's a black Booth right there and I

2050
01:32:40,430 --> 01:32:37,560
was told

2051
01:32:41,330 --> 01:32:40,440
when I walked by that Booth to sing a

2052
01:32:44,209 --> 01:32:41,340
song

2053
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,219
sing it for four minutes just take a

2054
01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:45,840
song that's four minutes long and sing

2055
01:32:51,649 --> 01:32:48,780
it don't think of nothing but that song

2056
01:32:54,590 --> 01:32:51,659
and when you walk by it by doing that

2057
01:32:56,830 --> 01:32:54,600
they can't read your mind

2058
01:32:58,930 --> 01:32:56,840
so tell me what that's about you know

2059
01:33:02,030 --> 01:32:58,940
wait wait wait wait

2060
01:33:02,930 --> 01:33:02,040
seriously yeah I write about that in my

2061
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:02,940
book

2062
01:33:08,810 --> 01:33:05,280
what song did you sing

2063
01:33:11,410 --> 01:33:08,820
uh battle forevermore yeah you did you

2064
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:11,420
did Led Zeppelin yeah

2065
01:33:27,470 --> 01:33:22,750
oh man well in the in the what God

2066
01:33:30,830 --> 01:33:27,480
oh man okay all right that everybody you

2067
01:33:32,510 --> 01:33:30,840
have the permission from me to take that

2068
01:33:34,189 --> 01:33:32,520
clip and post it all over the Internet

2069
01:33:36,709 --> 01:33:34,199
you can just post it right there Battle

2070
01:33:39,229 --> 01:33:36,719
of Evermore at the NASA at the NASA

2071
01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:39,239
skiff uh secret facility

2072
01:33:44,689 --> 01:33:40,400
um

2073
01:33:47,689 --> 01:33:44,699
is uh here's

2074
01:33:49,689 --> 01:33:47,699
but but here's the thing

2075
01:33:52,430 --> 01:33:49,699
when we have

2076
01:33:54,169 --> 01:33:52,440
the comments from our own government

2077
01:33:56,570 --> 01:33:54,179
that that are coming out and they're

2078
01:33:59,570 --> 01:33:56,580
coming out so quickly

2079
01:34:01,970 --> 01:33:59,580
it makes me feel that Chris that

2080
01:34:04,490 --> 01:34:01,980
um when we have the Wilson Davis

2081
01:34:07,250 --> 01:34:04,500
document which I know you're familiar

2082
01:34:09,470 --> 01:34:07,260
with and in that document you know Dr

2083
01:34:13,010 --> 01:34:09,480
Eric Davis who you know

2084
01:34:16,250 --> 01:34:13,020
um Dr Eric Davis uh uh is having a

2085
01:34:17,450 --> 01:34:16,260
conversation with then rear Admiral uh

2086
01:34:22,550 --> 01:34:17,460
Thomas Wilson

2087
01:34:24,290 --> 01:34:22,560
at Lockheed down the street from my

2088
01:34:27,129 --> 01:34:24,300
house he doesn't say Lockheed but let's

2089
01:34:30,229 --> 01:34:27,139
assume it was lucky and they told him

2090
01:34:33,110 --> 01:34:30,239
that they had a craft but they couldn't

2091
01:34:36,110 --> 01:34:33,120
get it to fly yeah I've heard that right

2092
01:34:37,850 --> 01:34:36,120
now okay now what do we what do we do

2093
01:34:40,550 --> 01:34:37,860
with that

2094
01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:40,560
um it was brought up at the UFO hearing

2095
01:34:45,530 --> 01:34:42,480
Last Summer the Wilson Davis document

2096
01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:45,540
and and these comments are are pretty

2097
01:34:50,330 --> 01:34:48,560
explosive so when when the government

2098
01:34:52,970 --> 01:34:50,340
wants us

2099
01:34:54,530 --> 01:34:52,980
to understand that they're trying to get

2100
01:34:55,850 --> 01:34:54,540
a hold of the phenomena right they're

2101
01:34:58,250 --> 01:34:55,860
trying to understand it they don't get

2102
01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:58,260
it but on the other hand we've got a

2103
01:35:03,530 --> 01:35:01,440
craft you know out here at Lockheed well

2104
01:35:05,209 --> 01:35:03,540
that says that they obviously know that

2105
01:35:07,729 --> 01:35:05,219
they're visiting us because they've got

2106
01:35:10,250 --> 01:35:07,739
a crack so is it that is it two

2107
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:10,260
different sides one is not speaking to

2108
01:35:15,070 --> 01:35:12,719
the other and they don't understand well

2109
01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:15,080
I agree to that yeah it's very

2110
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:19,199
compartmentalized all this and um I can

2111
01:35:23,450 --> 01:35:21,600
tell you that it could be all kinds of

2112
01:35:26,050 --> 01:35:23,460
things out there there could be multiple

2113
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:26,060
races there could be

2114
01:35:32,810 --> 01:35:29,400
my experience has been spiritual

2115
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:32,820
um what is it an ET we can call it that

2116
01:35:36,890 --> 01:35:34,739
if you want

2117
01:35:39,169 --> 01:35:36,900
um that's not what I

2118
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:39,179
refer to it as but

2119
01:35:46,189 --> 01:35:44,810
yeah I was told

2120
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:46,199
that

2121
01:35:50,629 --> 01:35:48,719
um straight straight look at me straight

2122
01:35:53,149 --> 01:35:50,639
now he said

2123
01:35:56,510 --> 01:35:53,159
these things don't crash

2124
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:56,520
they can come from halfway the universe

2125
01:36:03,050 --> 01:35:58,080
from the center

2126
01:36:05,330 --> 01:36:03,060
to hear in two hours and not go into any

2127
01:36:06,770 --> 01:36:05,340
kind of warp drive that's just how fast

2128
01:36:10,430 --> 01:36:06,780
they can go

2129
01:36:12,890 --> 01:36:10,440
50 million light years away as well

2130
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:12,900
Isotopes supposedly read on some of

2131
01:36:17,090 --> 01:36:13,760
these

2132
01:36:20,209 --> 01:36:17,100
metallic pieces that I've handled

2133
01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:20,219
and we talk about that in the book just

2134
01:36:26,450 --> 01:36:22,560
six months ago or not even six months

2135
01:36:29,090 --> 01:36:26,460
ago yeah maybe six it was in June I was

2136
01:36:29,990 --> 01:36:29,100
tested with some of that

2137
01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:30,000
um

2138
01:36:38,750 --> 01:36:36,890
he said they don't crash you think they

2139
01:36:40,850 --> 01:36:38,760
can come that far that fast and they're

2140
01:36:42,890 --> 01:36:40,860
going to crash here no they don't crash

2141
01:36:44,229 --> 01:36:42,900
it's more like a gift

2142
01:36:48,530 --> 01:36:44,239
because

2143
01:36:50,090 --> 01:36:48,540
think about is out here at Lockheed was

2144
01:36:51,709 --> 01:36:50,100
a gift yeah

2145
01:36:55,450 --> 01:36:51,719
yeah that's what I was told that they

2146
01:37:00,890 --> 01:36:58,550
that makes sense why do you think um

2147
01:37:03,110 --> 01:37:00,900
that comment was there in Wilson Davis

2148
01:37:05,450 --> 01:37:03,120
we can't make it Fly we can't get it to

2149
01:37:07,970 --> 01:37:05,460
fly because it can't they don't know

2150
01:37:11,270 --> 01:37:07,980
I've been asked about that which way the

2151
01:37:13,970 --> 01:37:11,280
electrons move sure yeah you know

2152
01:37:16,669 --> 01:37:13,980
there's just all kinds of stuff that

2153
01:37:18,770 --> 01:37:16,679
this is the most technologically

2154
01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:18,780
advanced

2155
01:37:28,270 --> 01:37:23,699
uh this material you know has layers it

2156
01:37:30,490 --> 01:37:28,280
can be ultra thin but have 50 layers of

2157
01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:30,500
compounds of metal

2158
01:37:35,209 --> 01:37:32,239
fused together

2159
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,219
it's you just don't know it's well above

2160
01:37:40,810 --> 01:37:37,440
our thinking all right but they've been

2161
01:37:43,610 --> 01:37:40,820
able to get stuff from it medical stuff

2162
01:37:45,950 --> 01:37:43,620
they've done some miraculous things with

2163
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:45,960
medical devices and I've been involved

2164
01:37:49,070 --> 01:37:48,000
in some of that

2165
01:37:51,590 --> 01:37:49,080
um

2166
01:37:53,570 --> 01:37:51,600
yeah I don't want to say a whole lot

2167
01:37:55,790 --> 01:37:53,580
there but I can tell you it's Advanced

2168
01:37:57,830 --> 01:37:55,800
our medical field a whole lot and we can

2169
01:37:59,870 --> 01:37:57,840
thank our government for that

2170
01:38:03,490 --> 01:37:59,880
your dog's barking you think there's a

2171
01:38:06,110 --> 01:38:03,500
visitor outside right well could be

2172
01:38:08,209 --> 01:38:06,120
would you would you tell me if there if

2173
01:38:11,209 --> 01:38:08,219
you got a Vibe like right now would you

2174
01:38:13,729 --> 01:38:11,219
tell me yeah if I felt it I would but I

2175
01:38:14,689 --> 01:38:13,739
don't necessarily feel it right now when

2176
01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:14,699
when

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01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:17,760
um you said you went like this I I meant

2178
01:38:23,390 --> 01:38:20,639
to ask you that is that like an antenna

2179
01:38:24,110 --> 01:38:23,400
I mean I'm not being Cavalier with you

2180
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:24,120
Chris

2181
01:38:30,590 --> 01:38:28,080
right yeah yeah I I stand my arms often

2182
01:38:33,229 --> 01:38:30,600
and um I think we'll be seeing some of

2183
01:38:35,290 --> 01:38:33,239
this later this summer

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01:38:38,450 --> 01:38:35,300
um but I I

2185
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:38,460
feel it better it's like

2186
01:38:43,490 --> 01:38:41,280
it's like they're drawn it comes through

2187
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:43,500
me through my arms and through my body

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01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:47,040
all right yeah

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01:38:53,629 --> 01:38:49,679
um uh really quick before I let you go

2190
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,639
and thank you uh uh it's laid out there

2191
01:38:56,689 --> 01:38:55,199
and everything else and you're doing a

2192
01:38:59,930 --> 01:38:56,699
lot of press and you're doing a lot of

2193
01:39:02,090 --> 01:38:59,940
shows and and big shout out to Dave uh I

2194
01:39:03,290 --> 01:39:02,100
think he's amazing and uh so Dave thank

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01:39:06,229 --> 01:39:03,300
you

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01:39:07,870 --> 01:39:06,239
um but I wanted to go back to uh Lori

2197
01:39:11,169 --> 01:39:07,880
Wagner for a second

2198
01:39:15,110 --> 01:39:11,179
Lori sent me a video

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01:39:17,149 --> 01:39:15,120
and uh of an orange orb and she's

2200
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,159
standing next to you and in the video

2201
01:39:20,930 --> 01:39:18,719
you can hear

2202
01:39:23,390 --> 01:39:20,940
as a matter of fact when she sent me the

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01:39:26,390 --> 01:39:23,400
video Chris I called her

2204
01:39:28,729 --> 01:39:26,400
and I went that I hear that's you right

2205
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:28,739
because I hear her talking uh next to

2206
01:39:33,590 --> 01:39:31,199
you she goes yeah that's me I said holy

2207
01:39:36,830 --> 01:39:33,600
crap so anyway

2208
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:36,840
um help me understand what she is

2209
01:39:41,510 --> 01:39:39,000
describing she's got a very distinctive

2210
01:39:43,250 --> 01:39:41,520
voice everybody and those that know her

2211
01:39:46,610 --> 01:39:43,260
love her because she's got this voice

2212
01:39:49,270 --> 01:39:46,620
and she's listening now laughing uh uh

2213
01:39:52,430 --> 01:39:49,280
wanting us to stop talking about her

2214
01:39:54,290 --> 01:39:52,440
but anyway she goes it's coming down

2215
01:39:56,350 --> 01:39:54,300
it's coming down holy crap it's getting

2216
01:40:00,530 --> 01:39:56,360
closer oh my God oh my God it's here

2217
01:40:02,390 --> 01:40:00,540
right and in that video what what

2218
01:40:05,149 --> 01:40:02,400
actually happened

2219
01:40:08,570 --> 01:40:05,159
um it's kind of hard to tell depth of

2220
01:40:11,570 --> 01:40:08,580
field but listening to her describe it

2221
01:40:13,550 --> 01:40:11,580
it seems to me that and she said it came

2222
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:13,560
out over the trees right it was up high

2223
01:40:19,310 --> 01:40:16,560
and then came up approached the yard and

2224
01:40:21,830 --> 01:40:19,320
then literally came down to you guys am

2225
01:40:22,910 --> 01:40:21,840
I understanding that correctly yeah in

2226
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:22,920
fact

2227
01:40:27,350 --> 01:40:25,440
um that was the last time she was here

2228
01:40:29,450 --> 01:40:27,360
it was during my daughter's wedding she

2229
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:29,460
flew out for Emily's wedding

2230
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:33,360
and Emily and Jack and she didn't fly

2231
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:35,280
back till Monday the wedding was on

2232
01:40:39,709 --> 01:40:36,960
Saturday night so

2233
01:40:42,890 --> 01:40:39,719
uh it was Sunday night and a good friend

2234
01:40:44,990 --> 01:40:42,900
of mine Foxy from his name is Foxy he's

2235
01:40:49,070 --> 01:40:45,000
in the very first chapter of the book

2236
01:40:50,169 --> 01:40:49,080
you hear the word Jason this is Foxy his

2237
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:50,179
son

2238
01:40:57,110 --> 01:40:52,800
somebody I'm really attached to but

2239
01:40:59,810 --> 01:40:57,120
anyhow foxy was here and he was staying

2240
01:41:02,090 --> 01:40:59,820
um one extra night Sunday night and it

2241
01:41:04,010 --> 01:41:02,100
was it was cloudy it was stunning and

2242
01:41:06,290 --> 01:41:04,020
light and it was

2243
01:41:09,229 --> 01:41:06,300
a nasty night and they were really

2244
01:41:11,390 --> 01:41:09,239
wanting to go out and Skywatch so I left

2245
01:41:14,209 --> 01:41:11,400
them in the house talking to Yvonne and

2246
01:41:16,129 --> 01:41:14,219
I went outside to my pier and I looked

2247
01:41:18,050 --> 01:41:16,139
up at the sky and it was lightning Flash

2248
01:41:20,930 --> 01:41:18,060
and I said

2249
01:41:23,209 --> 01:41:20,940
I said these people come from a long way

2250
01:41:25,550 --> 01:41:23,219
I'm just talking to heaven like this and

2251
01:41:28,189 --> 01:41:25,560
I know they hear me I know they did they

2252
01:41:30,290 --> 01:41:28,199
always do it's like I know they're there

2253
01:41:32,750 --> 01:41:30,300
and I said uh

2254
01:41:36,530 --> 01:41:32,760
I want them to experience something

2255
01:41:39,770 --> 01:41:36,540
special and it spoke to me immediately

2256
01:41:42,530 --> 01:41:39,780
and he said tell them not to be afraid

2257
01:41:43,970 --> 01:41:42,540
that we're going to come close so I

2258
01:41:46,250 --> 01:41:43,980
walked in the house

2259
01:41:50,209 --> 01:41:46,260
they're thinking the night was over

2260
01:41:52,669 --> 01:41:50,219
I said Lori uh foxy y'all promise me

2261
01:41:55,310 --> 01:41:52,679
don't be afraid but it's going to come

2262
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:55,320
close tonight ground level

2263
01:42:00,830 --> 01:41:57,840
and sure enough we go out to the end of

2264
01:42:04,129 --> 01:42:00,840
my house and here it starts coming and

2265
01:42:05,810 --> 01:42:04,139
it come from a long ways away one orb

2266
01:42:08,030 --> 01:42:05,820
appeared on the other side of the pond

2267
01:42:10,129 --> 01:42:08,040
and come all the way across the pond

2268
01:42:12,830 --> 01:42:10,139
about a foot out the water come up on

2269
01:42:15,229 --> 01:42:12,840
the bank come right up to us they came

2270
01:42:17,629 --> 01:42:15,239
from a long ways a bunch of them there

2271
01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:17,639
were I don't know how many she said but

2272
01:42:21,050 --> 01:42:18,719
uh

2273
01:42:24,050 --> 01:42:21,060
if I remember right that was close to a

2274
01:42:27,050 --> 01:42:24,060
dozen or approached us that night and

2275
01:42:28,850 --> 01:42:27,060
some came within 5-10 feet from us and

2276
01:42:30,350 --> 01:42:28,860
just vanished right in front of us yeah

2277
01:42:35,149 --> 01:42:30,360
that's what she said that's what she

2278
01:42:37,310 --> 01:42:35,159
said and uh to hear uh to hear her

2279
01:42:39,649 --> 01:42:37,320
describe it you know in the play-by-play

2280
01:42:42,530 --> 01:42:39,659
because she was taking my surprise yeah

2281
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:42,540
okay it was it was up high and it's

2282
01:42:47,570 --> 01:42:45,600
coming and she's like it's coming down

2283
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:47,580
it's coming down here it is it's orange

2284
01:42:51,250 --> 01:42:49,679
it's it's good about oh my god well I

2285
01:42:53,689 --> 01:42:51,260
it's getting cold

2286
01:42:55,550 --> 01:42:53,699
right and you know the video that I'm

2287
01:42:58,910 --> 01:42:55,560
talking about yeah

2288
01:43:00,649 --> 01:42:58,920
um and I mean I was blown away uh

2289
01:43:03,530 --> 01:43:00,659
watching the video and then that's when

2290
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:03,540
I realized it was Lori and I called her

2291
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:04,980
immediately she goes yeah yeah yeah

2292
01:43:11,689 --> 01:43:07,920
that's that's me in the video Yeah and

2293
01:43:13,370 --> 01:43:11,699
uh she called me I'm sorry but wow

2294
01:43:16,430 --> 01:43:13,380
um something's going on out there my man

2295
01:43:18,649 --> 01:43:16,440
and uh uh just just keep it up I can't

2296
01:43:20,750 --> 01:43:18,659
wait to get out there

2297
01:43:22,669 --> 01:43:20,760
um I want to experience this uh for

2298
01:43:24,890 --> 01:43:22,679
myself too as well but uh

2299
01:43:26,270 --> 01:43:24,900
congratulations on the book the book is

2300
01:43:28,490 --> 01:43:26,280
amazing

2301
01:43:30,290 --> 01:43:28,500
um you're going to be very very busy

2302
01:43:32,870 --> 01:43:30,300
over the next couple of weeks but thank

2303
01:43:36,169 --> 01:43:32,880
you for taking the time uh to hang out

2304
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,179
uh tonight and I expect that uh that

2305
01:43:42,770 --> 01:43:39,119
that Gasser engine uh to arrive in the

2306
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:42,780
mail here uh soon okay I will send it to

2307
01:43:47,629 --> 01:43:44,639
you I promise and you have a standing

2308
01:43:49,609 --> 01:43:47,639
invitation here anytime man Chris Chris

2309
01:43:52,250 --> 01:43:49,619
love you brother thank you uh the book

2310
01:43:54,770 --> 01:43:52,260
is amazing everybody the links are below

2311
01:43:58,129 --> 01:43:54,780
uh we've got them on social media and of

2312
01:44:00,410 --> 01:43:58,139
course over on our website as well Chris

2313
01:44:02,750 --> 01:44:00,420
Bledsoe thank you man the community

2314
01:44:05,649 --> 01:44:02,760
thank you thank you so much thank you

2315
01:44:08,510 --> 01:44:05,659
Jimmy I'm honored

2316
01:44:10,030 --> 01:44:08,520
thank you Chris thank you my friend what

2317
01:44:12,830 --> 01:44:10,040
a great night what a great conversation

2318
01:44:16,609 --> 01:44:12,840
and uh listen Chris has been doing a lot

2319
01:44:19,010 --> 01:44:16,619
of press a lot of media and uh and for

2320
01:44:22,189 --> 01:44:19,020
him to take the time uh to come on uh

2321
01:44:25,310 --> 01:44:22,199
with us live tonight uh it's very

2322
01:44:27,470 --> 01:44:25,320
special uh to me and uh for all of us I

2323
01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:27,480
do want to thank Dave uh for putting all

2324
01:44:33,290 --> 01:44:29,520
of this together thank you so much thank

2325
01:44:35,629 --> 01:44:33,300
you Chris and then uh again the links

2326
01:44:37,430 --> 01:44:35,639
are below and uh you can do all of that

2327
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:37,440
I want to remind everybody what is going

2328
01:44:42,890 --> 01:44:40,320
on and that is tomorrow night here on

2329
01:44:45,410 --> 01:44:42,900
Fade to Black doctor Christopher Macklin

2330
01:44:47,770 --> 01:44:45,420
is with us and tomorrow night we are

2331
01:44:51,950 --> 01:44:47,780
going to be talking about

2332
01:44:55,550 --> 01:44:51,960
off Planet AI That's Right tomorrow

2333
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:55,560
night off Planet AI Chris you stay right

2334
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:56,880
there I'll say good night after the show

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01:44:59,930 --> 01:44:58,320
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01:45:37,070 --> 01:45:35,639
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01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:37,080
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